Rookie Slam

xman5 · 11-05-2009, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by ajraymond

It's a lot tougher to win on tour now then those years when Annika could dominate a weak ass tour with little competition. Trust me Shin had an outstanding year as well as Kerr and Ochoa.

Yeah Webb, Pak, Inkster and others in there prime. No competetion at all.

dangerbob · 11-05-2009, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by gxer

Yep, I missed the fact that Anna, as an Amateur, qualified for and played in the women's British Open before turning pro, going to q-school and earning her card to play professional golf for the first time on the LPGA tour.

By the way, I happen to know that your middle name is Nitpicker and there is no need for you to tell me what my middle name is, I know what you think it is already.

Gxer and Blue:

Gxer sitting down, Blue on the right!

Blue · 11-05-2009, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by dangerbob

Gxer and Blue:

Gxer sitting down, Blue on the right!

Does my butt look big in this?

JJfan · 11-05-2009, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by xman5

I wasn't comparing Annika's rookie year with Shin's "rookie"? year. I was comparing the top players year with the best of Annika's years.

No one this year had an outstanding or dominating year. Even with the possability of Shin winning all of those awards (or anyone else), the year does not compare to any of Annika's top years in terms of dominating the tour.

Shin, Ochoa, Kerr had a good year, not outstanding.

Hi xman,
I am the one compairing Shins rookie year to Annika's. As we all know Shin has a good chance on POY and the Vare award.... something that hasn't been done since 1978.

And that is pretty outstanding.

As far as Shin breaking Annika's dominating seasons.... Like you wrote in a later post,there were some great players (Pak,Webb,Inkster) that were playing in those dominating years... but with maybe 10 players with a real chance at a win , there are more like 20 to 25 playing for the win now,I think Annika's records are safe for the time being...

ajraymond · 11-06-2009, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by JJfan

Hi xman,
I am the one compairing Shins rookie year to Annika's. As we all know Shin has a good chance on POY and the Vare award.... something that hasn't been done since 1978.

And that is pretty outstanding.

As far as Shin breaking Annika's dominating seasons.... Like you wrote in a later post,there were some great players (Pak,Webb,Inkster) that were playing in those dominating years... but with maybe 10 players with a real chance at a win , there are more like 20 to 25 playing for the win now,I think Annika's records are safe for the time being...

Your post hit the nail right on the head!

dangerbob · 11-06-2009, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by ajraymond

Your post hit the nail right on the head!

You mean like this?

Or this?

IceCat · 11-08-2009, 05:44 AM

Lorena finished ahead of Jiyai this week in Japan, tightening things up still further ahead of next week's Invitational in Guadalajara.

2009 Money List

1 Jiyai Shin $1,708,859.00
2 Ai Miyazato $1,468,562.00
3 Cristie Kerr $1,429,876.00
4 Suzann Pettersen $1,321,247.00
5 Lorena Ochoa $1,313,194.00
6 Na Yeon Choi $1,238,311.00
7 Yani Tseng $1,236,316.00

Player of the Year

1 Jiyai Shin 147.00
2 Lorena Ochoa 143.00
3 Cristie Kerr 118.00
4 Ai Miyazato 111.00
T5 Suzann Pettersen 110.00
T5 Yani Tseng 110.00
7 Na Yeon Choi 106.00

Vare Trophy (scoring average)

1 Lorena Ochoa 70.22
2 Ai Miyazato 70.29
3 Jiyai Shin 70.30
4 Cristie Kerr 70.31
5 Angela Stanford 70.39
6 Yani Tseng 70.45
7 Suzann Pettersen 70.47

Kevin

IceCat · 11-15-2009, 08:52 PM

Jiyai has clinched top spot on the 2009 Money List with her T3 finish in Mexico. She leads Cristie Kerr by $279,292 and since first place in Houston is worth only $225,000 Kerr can't catch Shin.

1 Jiyai Shin $1,775,104
2 Cristie Kerr $1,495,812
3 Ai Miyazato $1,484,919
4 Lorena Ochoa $1,352,493
5 Suzann Pettersen $1,337,487

The Player of the Year and Vare Trophy races will be decided at the Tour Championship in Houston.

Player of the Year

1 Jiyai Shin 156
2 Lorena Ochoa 148
3 Cristie Kerr 127
4 Yani Tseng 113
5 Ai Miyazato 111

Vare Trophy (scoring average)

1. Lorena Ochoa 70.225
2. Jiyai Shin 70.267
3. Cristie Kerr 70.275
4. Ai Miyazato 70.338
5. Yani Tseng 70.458

Kevin

bangkokbobby · 11-23-2009, 11:25 PM

This is hard to swallow. The reason everytime Ji Yai was in contention this season, I pulled for her to win and was bummed if somebody else won...even a little bummed if a Seoul Sister won...I just knew not to underestimate Lorena Ochoa...that while Ji Yai had the chance she needed to be agressive and not play safe...

...some will say that we...well, let me speak only for me...that I should be happy she finished with ROY and second in Vare and POY rankings...and from a logical standpoint that would be correct...

...but I'm not...I'm as disappointed as I've ever been about how a Seoul Sister has finished...almost sick to my stomach...

...it's not a given that Ji Yai will contend for POY every year...talent-wise, she should be there...but again, I don't underestimate Lorena Ochoa...and I don't underestimate a healthy Paula Creamer...when history is in reach, you have to grab it...you can't assume it will come around again...off the top of my head, right now I'm thinking of Dan Marino who early in his career lost a Super Bowl...but with his amazing talent you figured he'd get another chance...he never did...or Michelle Kwan who had several chances at an Olympic Gold...but always came up short...

...maybe Ji Yai will win POY next year...maybe she won't...all I know is she lost this year by a point...one stinking, filthy point...

...I suspect this feeling will pass...but right now I could not care less about tournaments coming up like the Korea-Japan competition or the tournament in Dubai...in this moment, I just feel like forgetting about golf until February 15th in Thailand...

greentee · 11-24-2009, 02:37 AM

By BKB - ...maybe Ji Yai will win POY next year...maybe she won't...all I know is she lost this year by a point...one stinking, filthy point...

Hee - points are in the eye of the beholder. In Ochoa's garden it enhances the senses. In Shin's garden, I bet all those other points reflect Ochoa's just fine. Time to meditate BKB. 8-)

11-05-2009, 01:11 PM	#31
xman5 Contest Statistician Join Date: May 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 3,902	Originally Posted by ajraymond It's a lot tougher to win on tour now then those years when Annika could dominate a weak ass tour with little competition. Trust me Shin had an outstanding year as well as Kerr and Ochoa. Yeah Webb, Pak, Inkster and others in there prime. No competetion at all.

11-05-2009, 02:36 PM	#32
dangerbob Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,871	Originally Posted by gxer Yep, I missed the fact that Anna, as an *Amateur, qualified for and played in the women's British Open before turning pro, going to q-school and earning her card to play professional golf for the first time on the LPGA tour. By the way, I happen to know that your middle name is Nitpicker and there is no need for you to tell me what my middle name is, I know what you think it is already. Gxer and Blue:* Gxer sitting down, Blue on the right! __________________ "On this hapless EARTH There's small SINCERITY of mirth And LAUGHTER oft is but an ART To drown the outcry of the HEART!"

11-05-2009, 03:26 PM	#33
Blue Forum Moderator Contests: Joint 3rd place overall winner 2009. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,650 Images: 6	Originally Posted by dangerbob Gxer and Blue: Gxer sitting down, Blue on the right! Does my butt look big in this?

11-05-2009, 03:56 PM	#34
JJfan Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Manassas,Virginia Posts: 289 Images: 26	Originally Posted by xman5 I wasn't comparing Annika's rookie year with Shin's "rookie"? year. I was comparing the top players year with the best of Annika's years. No one this year had an outstanding or dominating year. Even with the possability of Shin winning all of those awards (or anyone else), the year does not compare to any of Annika's top years in terms of dominating the tour. Shin, Ochoa, Kerr had a good year, not outstanding. Hi xman, I am the one compairing Shins rookie year to Annika's. As we all know Shin has a good chance on POY and the Vare award.... something that hasn't been done since 1978. And that is pretty outstanding. As far as Shin breaking Annika's dominating seasons.... Like you wrote in a later post,there were some great players (Pak,Webb,Inkster) that were playing in those dominating years... but with maybe 10 players with a real chance at a win , there are more like 20 to 25 playing for the win now,I think Annika's records are safe for the time being...

11-06-2009, 07:58 AM	#35
ajraymond Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 656	Originally Posted by JJfan Hi xman, I am the one compairing Shins rookie year to Annika's. As we all know Shin has a good chance on POY and the Vare award.... something that hasn't been done since 1978. And that is pretty outstanding. As far as Shin breaking Annika's dominating seasons.... Like you wrote in a later post,there were some great players (Pak,Webb,Inkster) that were playing in those dominating years... but with maybe 10 players with a real chance at a win , there are more like 20 to 25 playing for the win now,I think Annika's records are safe for the time being... Your post hit the nail right on the head!

11-06-2009, 10:15 AM	#36
dangerbob Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,871	Originally Posted by ajraymond Your post hit the nail right on the head! You mean like this? Or this? __________________ "On this hapless EARTH There's small SINCERITY of mirth And LAUGHTER oft is but an ART To drown the outcry of the HEART!"

11-08-2009, 05:44 AM	#37
IceCat Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northborough, MA Posts: 236 Images: 156	Lorena finished ahead of Jiyai this week in Japan, tightening things up still further ahead of next week's Invitational in Guadalajara. 2009 Money List 1 Jiyai Shin $1,708,859.00 2 Ai Miyazato $1,468,562.00 3 Cristie Kerr $1,429,876.00 4 Suzann Pettersen $1,321,247.00 5 Lorena Ochoa $1,313,194.00 6 Na Yeon Choi $1,238,311.00 7 Yani Tseng $1,236,316.00 Player of the Year 1 Jiyai Shin 147.00 2 Lorena Ochoa 143.00 3 Cristie Kerr 118.00 4 Ai Miyazato 111.00 T5 Suzann Pettersen 110.00 T5 Yani Tseng 110.00 7 Na Yeon Choi 106.00 Vare Trophy (scoring average) 1 Lorena Ochoa 70.22 2 Ai Miyazato 70.29 3 Jiyai Shin 70.30 4 Cristie Kerr 70.31 5 Angela Stanford 70.39 6 Yani Tseng 70.45 7 Suzann Pettersen 70.47 Kevin __________________ Citizen of Red Sox Nation Loyal member of Team PJE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WImLU31G2o8 Last edited by IceCat; 11-08-2009 at 05:49 AM. Reason: spelling

11-15-2009, 08:52 PM	#38
IceCat Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Northborough, MA Posts: 236 Images: 156	Jiyai has clinched top spot on the 2009 Money List with her T3 finish in Mexico. She leads Cristie Kerr by $279,292 and since first place in Houston is worth only $225,000 Kerr can't catch Shin. 1 Jiyai Shin $1,775,104 2 Cristie Kerr $1,495,812 3 Ai Miyazato $1,484,919 4 Lorena Ochoa $1,352,493 5 Suzann Pettersen $1,337,487 The Player of the Year and Vare Trophy races will be decided at the Tour Championship in Houston. Player of the Year 1 Jiyai Shin 156 2 Lorena Ochoa 148 3 Cristie Kerr 127 4 Yani Tseng 113 5 Ai Miyazato 111 Vare Trophy (scoring average) 1. Lorena Ochoa 70.225 2. Jiyai Shin 70.267 3. Cristie Kerr 70.275 4. Ai Miyazato 70.338 5. Yani Tseng 70.458 Kevin __________________ Citizen of Red Sox Nation Loyal member of Team PJE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WImLU31G2o8 Last edited by IceCat; 11-16-2009 at 06:43 PM.

11-23-2009, 11:25 PM	#39
bangkokbobby Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New York Posts: 2,893	This is hard to swallow. The reason everytime Ji Yai was in contention this season, I pulled for her to win and was bummed if somebody else won...even a little bummed if a Seoul Sister won...I just knew not to underestimate Lorena Ochoa...that while Ji Yai had the chance she needed to be agressive and not play safe... ...some will say that we...well, let me speak only for me...that I should be happy she finished with ROY and second in Vare and POY rankings...and from a logical standpoint that would be correct... ...but I'm not...I'm as disappointed as I've ever been about how a Seoul Sister has finished...almost sick to my stomach... ...it's not a given that Ji Yai will contend for POY every year...talent-wise, she should be there...but again, I don't underestimate Lorena Ochoa...and I don't underestimate a healthy Paula Creamer...when history is in reach, you have to grab it...you can't assume it will come around again...off the top of my head, right now I'm thinking of Dan Marino who early in his career lost a Super Bowl...but with his amazing talent you figured he'd get another chance...he never did...or Michelle Kwan who had several chances at an Olympic Gold...but always came up short... ...maybe Ji Yai will win POY next year...maybe she won't...all I know is she lost this year by a point...one stinking, filthy point... ...I suspect this feeling will pass...but right now I could not care less about tournaments coming up like the Korea-Japan competition or the tournament in Dubai...in this moment, I just feel like forgetting about golf until February 15th in Thailand... __________________ Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary. ---Steve Jobs http://bangkokbobbysports.wordpress.com/

11-24-2009, 02:37 AM	#40
greentee Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,484 Images: 4	By BKB - ...maybe Ji Yai will win POY next year...maybe she won't...all I know is she lost this year by a point...one stinking, filthy point... Hee - points are in the eye of the beholder. In Ochoa's garden it enhances the senses. In Shin's garden, I bet all those other points reflect Ochoa's just fine. Time to meditate BKB. 8-) __________________ ... I am not a tree, I am a tee... hit me, ah... wait a minute...

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