Rookie Slam

xman5 · 11-04-2009, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by JJfan

I think Shin had a pretty fair year winning the ROY, a good lead on THE TOP$$$ for 2009 and a pretty good darn chance at earning the Vare Trophy.....

How many of these did Annika win her Rookie year???

I wasn't comparing Annika's rookie year with Shin's "rookie"? year. I was comparing the top players year with the best of Annika's years.

No one this year had an outstanding or dominating year. Even with the possability of Shin winning all of those awards (or anyone else), the year does not compare to any of Annika's top years in terms of dominating the tour.

Shin, Ochoa, Kerr had a good year, not outstanding.

NTB · 11-04-2009, 11:59 AM

Is shin a true rookie?

gxer · 11-04-2009, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by notaxbill

Is shin a true rookie?

What is your definition of a true rookie?

NTB · 11-04-2009, 01:53 PM

Thats my question.

gxer · 11-04-2009, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by notaxbill

Thats my question.

Shin is a rookie by definition, in that, 2009 is her first year as a member of the LPGA tour.

Michelle Wie is a rookie under the same definition.

Are they "true rookies"? I don't know, what do you think a "true rookie" is?

NTB · 11-04-2009, 04:34 PM

???????

gxer · 11-04-2009, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by notaxbill

???????

Perhaps you are thinking that a "true rookie" is someone who has never played on the LPGA tour before earning a card at q-school or on the futures tour.

If so, then neither Shin nor Wie are "true rookies" but Anna Nordqvist would be a "true rookie".

Blue · 11-05-2009, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by gxer

Perhaps you are thinking that a "true rookie" is someone who has never played on the LPGA tour before earning a card at q-school or on the futures tour.

If so, then neither Shin nor Wie are "true rookies" but Anna Nordqvist would be a "true rookie".

No she wouldn't.

gxer · 11-05-2009, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by Blue

No she wouldn't.

Didn't Anna earn her LPGA tour card at q-school?

When did she play on the LPGA tour before she earned her card?

xman5 · 11-05-2009, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by gxer

Didn't Anna earn her LPGA tour card at q-school?

When did she play on the LPGA tour before she earned her card?

You ask and you get. From the Official LPGA Bio.

Amateur
A member of the Swedish National Team from 1987-92, Sorenstam enjoyed a very successful amateur career. In 1992, she
was the World Amateur champion, runner-up at the U.S. Women’s Amateur Championship and the second-lowest amateur at
the U.S. Women’s Open. In addition to winning seven collegiate titles during her career at the University of Arizona, she was
the 1991 NCAA Co-Player of the Year (with Kelly Robbins), 1991 NCAA champion and runner-up the following year, 1992 Pac-
10 champion and a 1991-92 NCAA All-American.

l In 1993, competed in three LPGA events before joining the Tour, earning more than $47,000; tied for 38th at the PING
Welch’s Championship in Tucson, Ariz., placed fourth at the Standard Register PING and tied for ninth at the Las Vegas
LPGA at Canyon Gate; was the Rookie of the Year on the WPGET; qualified for the Tour by tying for 28th at the LPGA
Final Qualifying Tournament to earn non-exempt status for the 1994 LPGA season.

l In 1994, was the Rolex Rookie of the Year on the strength of three top-10 finishes, including a season-best tie for second
at the Weetabix Women’s British Open; qualified for her first European Solheim Cup Team; won the Holden Australian
Open Championship on the ALPG Tour.

l In 1995, became a Rolex First-Time Winner at the U.S. Women’s Open, making her one of 14 LPGA players to have the
Open as her first LPGA career victory; won the GHP Heartland Classic by 10 strokes; won the Samsung World
Championship of Women’s Golf with a 45-foot chip-in on the first hole of a sudden-death playoff with Laura Davies;
became the second international player to win Rolex Player of the Year; is the only player besides Nancy Lopez to have
won Rolex Rookie of the Year and then the Rolex Player of the Year and Vare Trophy the following year; became the first
international player to win the Vare Trophy for lowest scoring average; also led the WPGET Order of Merit on the strength
of two wins (OVB Damen Open, and Hennessy Cup); won the Australian Masters on the Australian Ladies Professional
Golf (ALPG) Tour.

11-04-2009, 10:44 AM	#11
xman5 Contest Statistician Join Date: May 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 3,902	Originally Posted by JJfan I think Shin had a pretty fair year winning the ROY, a good lead on THE TOP$$$ for 2009 and a pretty good darn chance at earning the Vare Trophy..... How many of these did Annika win her Rookie year??? I wasn't comparing Annika's rookie year with Shin's "rookie"? year. I was comparing the top players year with the best of Annika's years. No one this year had an outstanding or dominating year. Even with the possability of Shin winning all of those awards (or anyone else), the year does not compare to any of Annika's top years in terms of dominating the tour. Shin, Ochoa, Kerr had a good year, not outstanding.

11-04-2009, 11:59 AM	#12
NTB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: hot springs village arkansas Posts: 2,288 Images: 4	Is shin a true rookie? __________________ God Bless America \"Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants.\" - William Penn

11-04-2009, 12:40 PM	#13
gxer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,049	Originally Posted by notaxbill Is shin a true rookie? What is your definition of a true rookie? __________________ *My "dream" girl: LPGA seasonal tour stats <=65.50 & >=270*

11-04-2009, 01:53 PM	#14
NTB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: hot springs village arkansas Posts: 2,288 Images: 4	Thats my question. __________________ God Bless America \"Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants.\" - William Penn

11-04-2009, 02:30 PM	#15
gxer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,049	Originally Posted by notaxbill Thats my question. Shin is a rookie by definition, in that, 2009 is her first year as a member of the LPGA tour. Michelle Wie is a rookie under the same definition. Are they "true rookies"? I don't know, what do you think a "true rookie" is? __________________ *My "dream" girl: LPGA seasonal tour stats <=65.50 & >=270*

11-04-2009, 04:34 PM	#16
NTB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: hot springs village arkansas Posts: 2,288 Images: 4	??????? __________________ God Bless America \"Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants.\" - William Penn

11-04-2009, 06:00 PM	#17
gxer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,049	Originally Posted by notaxbill ??????? Perhaps you are thinking that a "true rookie" is someone who has never played on the LPGA tour before earning a card at q-school or on the futures tour. If so, then neither Shin nor Wie are "true rookies" but Anna Nordqvist would be a "true rookie". __________________ *My "dream" girl: LPGA seasonal tour stats <=65.50 & >=270*

11-05-2009, 08:38 AM	#18
Blue Forum Moderator Contests: Joint 3rd place overall winner 2009. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,650 Images: 6	Originally Posted by gxer Perhaps you are thinking that a "true rookie" is someone who has never played on the LPGA tour before earning a card at q-school or on the futures tour. If so, then neither Shin nor Wie are "true rookies" but Anna Nordqvist would be a "true rookie". No she wouldn't.

11-05-2009, 09:47 AM	#19
gxer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,049	Originally Posted by Blue No she wouldn't. Didn't Anna earn her LPGA tour card at q-school? When did she play on the LPGA tour before she earned her card? __________________ *My "dream" girl: LPGA seasonal tour stats <=65.50 & >=270*

11-05-2009, 10:01 AM	#20
xman5 Contest Statistician Join Date: May 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 3,902	Originally Posted by gxer Didn't Anna earn her LPGA tour card at q-school? When did she play on the LPGA tour before she earned her card? You ask and you get. From the Official LPGA Bio. Amateur A member of the Swedish National Team from 1987-92, Sorenstam enjoyed a very successful amateur career. In 1992, she was the World Amateur champion, runner-up at the U.S. Women’s Amateur Championship and the second-lowest amateur at the U.S. Women’s Open. In addition to winning seven collegiate titles during her career at the University of Arizona, she was the 1991 NCAA Co-Player of the Year (with Kelly Robbins), 1991 NCAA champion and runner-up the following year, 1992 Pac- 10 champion and a 1991-92 NCAA All-American. l In 1993, competed in three LPGA events before joining the Tour, earning more than $47,000; tied for 38th at the PING Welch’s Championship in Tucson, Ariz., placed fourth at the Standard Register PING and tied for ninth at the Las Vegas LPGA at Canyon Gate; was the Rookie of the Year on the WPGET; qualified for the Tour by tying for 28th at the LPGA Final Qualifying Tournament to earn non-exempt status for the 1994 LPGA season. l In 1994, was the Rolex Rookie of the Year on the strength of three top-10 finishes, including a season-best tie for second at the Weetabix Women’s British Open; qualified for her first European Solheim Cup Team; won the Holden Australian Open Championship on the ALPG Tour. l In 1995, became a Rolex First-Time Winner at the U.S. Women’s Open, making her one of 14 LPGA players to have the Open as her first LPGA career victory; won the GHP Heartland Classic by 10 strokes; won the Samsung World Championship of Women’s Golf with a 45-foot chip-in on the first hole of a sudden-death playoff with Laura Davies; became the second international player to win Rolex Player of the Year; is the only player besides Nancy Lopez to have won Rolex Rookie of the Year and then the Rolex Player of the Year and Vare Trophy the following year; became the first international player to win the Vare Trophy for lowest scoring average; also led the WPGET Order of Merit on the strength of two wins (OVB Damen Open, and Hennessy Cup); won the Australian Masters on the Australian Ladies Professional Golf (ALPG) Tour.

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