One New Event LPGA In 2010

[MarinePaul]

Xman, either way will work, I think. I'd prefer picks after each round, personally, but the NCAA bracket type of format would be just as good. Whatever you decide is fine.

[greentee]

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Hummm.... I have been reading some of the news articles/opinions from some writers, and a lot of them think this event is welcome, but worry that it would have been better as a full event, then a match play.... mainly because match play there bombed last time.

My opinion, (which is worth little), is ok.... lets try match play again.... if it bombs again.... fine, turn it into a full event next year.... preferably an Open. This place is beautiful.

Anyways thats the future.... here are some facts of this event in links, (I really should figure out how to port pictures into this posting thing - some good ones here). :-)

(1) This is the home site for Hamilton Farm Golf Club, where one can find their history, talk on golf, golf course tour, and the Cottages, can you say Mansions.

http://www.hamiltonfarmgolfclub.com/...id=85510&vnf=1

(2) This is actually a video add for grass control, but talks about the course and one gets to see some of the fairways.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwzqxjyQpLk

(3) Ok.... this link is on one of the sponsors Octagon, there are two links here, first is their business overall, and second is focusing on their golf area of business.

http://www.octagon.com/

http://www.octagongolf.com/Default.aspx/Home

(4) This link is the other sponsor Sybase , and they are also huge, if you did not know about them before, you well now. :-)

http://www.sybase.com/

[golfnut]

Greentree, it isn't that matchplay bombed, quite to the contrary, most of the players, fans and sponsors loved it. HSBC, wanted to move their event to asia where there is a better fan base, and yes they wanted the event to revert to stroke play because it is more predictable. But i hardly see where the matchplay bombed.

[Saint-Just X]

I can't believe people would complain about this.

No pleasing some people...

Pax Vobiscum
Saint-Just X

[xman5]

I was at all of the match play events. The first 2 did very well when they were at Hamilton Farms.

The last one which was held at the fomer site of the Sybase in Westchester before it moved to NJ had a problem on the weekend.

First, it was the weekend of the British Open.

Second all of the Americans, plus Annika, Ochoa and any other name player you could think of were eliminated early.

Because of this, Fridays attendance was 3 times greater then Sundays Final round which was between Miyzato (still unknown in the US) and the winner how was a korean player (who I don't even remember). Basically it was a group of Japanese fans and Korean fans and me. It also happened to be a good match. Some where on here is may report on it.

Some people just won't accept good news. So instead of losing 1 tournament (the Sybase) and no Tournaments in NJ, we end up with 2. Sounds like a win/win.

[Saint-Just X]

Originally Posted by xman5

I was at all of the match play events. The first 2 did very well when they were at Hamilton Farms.

The last one which was held at the fomer site of the Sybase in Westchester before it moved to NJ had a problem on the weekend.

First, it was the weekend of the British Open.

Second all of the Americans, plus Annika, Ochoa and any other name player you could think of were eliminated early.

Because of this, Fridays attendance was 3 times greater then Sundays Final round which was between Miyzato (still unknown in the US) and the winner how was a korean player (who I don't even remember). Basically it was a group of Japanese fans and Korean fans and me. It also happened to be a good match. Some where on here is may report on it.

Some people just won't accept good news. So instead of losing 1 tournament (the Sybase) and no Tournaments in NJ, we end up with 2. Sounds like a win/win.

Seon Hwa Lee,it was.

I'd be perfectly content if it was the same final this year.

With Ai Miyazato winning,of course...

Pax Vobiscum
Saint-Just X

[xman5]

Here was my final round report from the last match play that I found on here.
I guess the winner was SH Lee.

The last event was at Wykagyl not Hamilton Farms.

Gee, look at all the typos and spelling mistakes.

OK here are my comments for today.

Got to the course late this morning. Picked up the morning matches at the 5th tee. Tried to follow both but watched more of the Ai M-Hjorth since it was the second one. Hjorth did not seem to be out driving Ai. On some holes Ai was further. However I could not tell who was hitting drivers or 3 woods.

Noticed Hjorth check her Blood Sugar level on the sixth green. She had a little kit in her bag. She also looked tired to me. Especially on the back 9. This is a tough event.

Almost got hit by the Tee shot of Hjorth on the par 3 13, others were hit as the ball bounced around. Ball ended up on the cart path while Ai was on the green. She decided to hit it off the cart path instead of droping on the side hill. Good decision as she made a great chip and halved the hole.

In between the rounds Paula Creamer was at the driving range with her coach. Karrie Webb was at the putting green getting a lesson from Val Slinner.

In between rounds watched the end of the British Open. 2 in the Bern. Then Sergio puts it in the bunker. Couldn't see the playoff because the Final round was starting at 1:45.

There was a question on the pace play. Play was not slow. It was hard to keep from the gallery. After a long week I was only at half speed. Remember there were only 2 groups playing and the final group was playing for 500K. They had the right to take there time.

Ai and Lee. A good match. From the begining both were grinding very hard. Including the caddies. Both work closely with there caddies. The greens were FAST. Even after getting hit with water between the rounds. Also the pin positions were IMPOSSIBLE. They both played great, As you probably seen on TV from 14,15,16,17. Doesn't get better then that. If one put it in close, the other put it in closer. The difference was on the greens, where Lee was just a little bit better and was able to capitalize on the few mistakes that Ai made. Lets just say the Lee was awsome on the greens and Ai wasn't too bad either

Japanese fans out numbered the Korean fans by a lot or at least were a lot more vocal.

I assume that they had the interview with Ai and Val Skinner on TV. Ai was gracious but what a terrible question to ask. She basically asked when she was going to win on the LPGA. Bad job by Val. What you didn't she on TV was Ai quietly crying to herself behind the HSBC sign. However a Japanese Photographer in front of me caught it so I am sure you will see it in the Japanese papers tmr.

In Lee's interview her answers did not really make too much sense, but so what. She was happy and the questions were meaningless anyway.

This is a tough tournament to win. 6 rounds in the heat on a very hilly course is a lot. Neither one gave into any pressure, ala the 17th where Lee puts it in close and Ai fighting for her life nails it right by the pin and then Lee drains the putt for the win. Priceless.

Can't remember too much else, I am wiped out from a terrific week. Can't wait till next time.

[greentee]

Originally Posted by golfnut

Greentree, it isn't that matchplay bombed, quite to the contrary, most of the players, fans and sponsors loved it. HSBC, wanted to move their event to Asia where there is a better fan base, and yes they wanted the event to revert to stroke play because it is more predictable. But i hardly see where the matchplay bombed.

Ah... you got me wrong there... I did not say I did not like this kind of golf play, (I actually like any kind of golf play), what I was saying was.... just that I had also read some of the news from writers from golf mags etc, about this new event, and they overall, (most of them), thought match play was the wrong way to go, and that a full event the better way.

I thought they were being premature, (as that attitude seems to abroad these days with anything news or new), and I had just made a short comment on their views. I did not think their full reports worth the effort to reproduce, so excluded them, except their general view... which surprised me.

But if you think their views important, and you need proof of what I am saying, then I am sure I can find those comments, and reproduce them here if you wish. They are not our views... but they are supposed to represent the golf society in general, being as they are supposedly attached to mags or blogs on golf. Anyways, thats my explanation of your perception of my view.... which it wasn't.

Bet I screwed that explanation up more then I originally wrote.... do I make any sense to you now? Or do you want their views posted here, (remember they are not mine)?

[MarinePaul]

Personally, I like match play. There are some, like the writers Greentee mentioned, who prefer stroke play. It's another event, plain and simple, and that has to be looked at as a good thing.

[xman5]

I think the point that they may be making is that with the limited schedule, they should have as many full field events as possible. With Match Play you run the risk of a dud weekend if everyone is elminated.

I don't disagree with the argument. It is valid. At $1.5 they certainly could of had a full event, that would be inline with most other events.

I'm just selfish and would enjoy seeing the match play.