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Old 06-15-2009, 01:14 PM   #21
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gxer - Different heights would make for different swings right.... or am mistaken thinking that?

As for those TV exes compairisons.... well I think many have been waiting and missing another American/Euro Annika.... then they have some one to talk about endlessly again. Even if it is only a very good illusion, as it fills up their hype gap once more, and they are very happy. For now all is well again in the world of ladies golf. Or... am I stretching this analogy beyond it's snapping limits. :-)
Yes, height is a big factor. A short golfer, with a flat swing, is more likely to favor draws and a tall golfer with an upright swing is more likely to favor fades.

If you keep in mind that Annika is a hooker and Anna is a fader, those TV "experts" won't be able to fool you.
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What you say seems to make good sense.

Anyways as I interpret that.... after the club and ball separate, no matter what you do then will effect the flight of the ball. As you say the prep before club and ball connect, will always effect the balls flight, one way or the other. Head turn ok, as it follows through with action of club and ball. Head up and down, opposes or changes that club/ball action. Did I get you right?

Geee... I almost sound like I know what I am talking about.... but I do not. I learn from what you all write, and it all helps me understand golf and the players who play it. Thank you gxer, your views also help me, (and I imagine others), visualize better the inside story to this game. This game is no toy with only a few assembled parts. :-)
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Originally Posted by gxer View Post
Yes, height is a big factor. A short golfer, with a flat swing, is more likely to favor draws and a tall golfer with an upright swing is more likely to favor fades.

If you keep in mind that Annika is a hooker and Anna is a fader, those TV "experts" won't be able to fool you.
Thanks.... I 'will' keep that all in mind. :-)
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Old 06-15-2009, 01:43 PM   #24
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Yes, height is a big factor. A short golfer, with a flat swing, is more likely to favor draws and a tall golfer with an upright swing is more likely to favor fades.

If you keep in mind that Annika is a hooker and Anna is a fader, those TV "experts" won't be able to fool you.
I don't think that is correct. Most longer players perfer to draw the ball. The rule of thumb is that a draw will go longer then a fade. I am not totally sure of the exact physics behind that Idea.

It is also harder to hit a draw. Most LPGA golfers do not draw the ball, and do not think that it has anything to due with height. However the best have the ability to draw or fade. Annika perferd to draw the ball, but could also fade it. Ochoa draws. Whenever Wie wants to hit it long she will hit a draw.

I am a shorter golfer and my natural shot is to fade. I also have a short 1 plane backswing, but can generate a lot of clubhead speed.
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Originally Posted by greentee View Post
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What you say seems to make good sense.

Anyways as I interpret that.... after the club and ball separate, no matter what you do then will effect the flight of the ball.
That is correct, but the end result of your swing is a direct result of what happened before hand. You want to achieve certain follow thru because that was setup by how you went thru your swing at and before impact.

So knowing how to follow thru properly will help you at impact and not just to look pretty. So that your entire swing is one complete harmonious movement. But now I am getting to Zen.

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I don't think that is correct. Most longer players perfer to draw the ball. The rule of thumb is that a draw will go longer then a fade. I am not totally sure of the exact physics behind that Idea.

It is also harder to hit a draw. Most LPGA golfers do not draw the ball, and do not think that it has anything to due with height. However the best have the ability to draw or fade. Annika perferd to draw the ball, but could also fade it. Ochoa draws. Whenever Wie wants to hit it long she will hit a draw.

I am a shorter golfer and my natural shot is to fade. I also have a short 1 plane backswing, but can generate a lot of clubhead speed.
While I agree that the best golfers are able to draw or fade at will, most golfers prefer one or the other. Week end golfers, short or tall, because of basic swing flaws, are slicers.
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Good analysis, Gxer.....I'm no expert, but I agree with what you say as I saw the same thing as you.
It's tough to compare a 5'6" Annika swing to a 6'0" Anna swing.

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Good analysis, Gxer.....I'm no expert, but I agree with what you say as I saw the same thing as you.
It's tough to compare a 5'6" Annika swing to a 6'0" Anna swing.

Viva Annika
All through that swing comparison TGC did I had to scratch my head and say what are they doing?

Anna plays a controlled fade with all her full shots, which is a good way to play golf. Jack Nicklaus played a controlled fade in his glory days on the PGA tour but Jack made a full backswing, getting the shaft of his driver to parallel and ripped the ball.

If Anna is physically able to increase the length of her backswing and still maintain control of her fade, she will be dangerous on any LPGA tour course, long or short.
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I don't think that is correct. Most longer players perfer to draw the ball. The rule of thumb is that a draw will go longer then a fade. I am not totally sure of the exact physics behind that Idea.

It is also harder to hit a draw. Most LPGA golfers do not draw the ball, and do not think that it has anything to due with height. However the best have the ability to draw or fade. Annika perferd to draw the ball, but could also fade it. Ochoa draws. Whenever Wie wants to hit it long she will hit a draw.

I am a shorter golfer and my natural shot is to fade. I also have a short 1 plane backswing, but can generate a lot of clubhead speed.
I believe the theory is that a draw travels at a lower trajectory, so will generate more roll. I remember reading that somewhere.
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I Most LPGA golfers do not draw the ball,
I thought about just letting this statement of your's go but I decided not to.

My contention is this, most LPGA tour players favor a draw and play a draw, not that they can't fade the ball, most of them can if the shot requires some sort of fade or slice but what I am saying is that most LPGA tour players play a draw.

I say that because of my personal observations, do you have any proof that most LPGA tour players do not draw the ball? Afer all, most means more than 50% and I probably have not seen 50% of all LPGA tour players hit the ball, what I mostly see are the top players.
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