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Old 03-06-2011, 10:16 AM   #1
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Yani HOF Watch

Looking at the criteria for the LPGA Hall of Fame:

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1. Must be/have been an "active" LPGA Tour member for 10 years:
2. Must have won/been awarded at least one of the following - an LPGA major championship, the Vare Trophy or Rolex Player of the Year honors; and
3. Must have accumulated a total of 27 points, which are awarded as follows - one point for each LPGA official tournament win, two points for each LPGA major tournament win and one point for each Vare Trophy or Rolex Player of the Year honor earned.

Does anyone know if the two points for a major championship win is awarded in addition to the one point the player would get for winning the the tournament, or is it just two points for winning the tournament?

Assuming the latter, Yani now has 10 points toward the 27 necessary for HOF entry, not bad for a 22-year old just starting her fourth year on tour. If she plays as well in 2011 as she did in 2010, she'll end the season half-way to qualifying for the HOF.
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Yes, it's 2 points only for a Major win, not 1 point for winning the tournament plus an additional 2 points for a Major...Se Ri Pak gained the requisite 27 points when she won the 2004 Michelob, she had 22 wins and 4 Majors at that time (she now has 25 wins and 5 Majors)...the points broke down

18 wins for 18 points
4 Majors for 8 points
2003 Vare Trophy for 1 point

...that gave her 27 points...but she had to wait a few more years to get the required 10 years on tour...

...what's interesting is that the 2003 Vare Trophy came in a year when Annika did not play enough rounds to qualify...so...I guess one could quibble a bit at the last point...however, by the time Se Ri was inducted she had 2 more wins, including a Major, the 2006 McDonald's LPGA Championship...

...is it too early to think HOF with Yani...well, yes and no...it is a lot of points away...17 points...there are a lot of great players like Cristie Kerr and Suzann Pettersen who don't have that for their careers yet...but on the other hand, how many players have 10 points one month past their 22nd birthday...
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...but speaking of Cristie...she has 14 wins and 2 Majors for 16 points...11 points away...and she looks like she is still playing very well...it's not inconceivable that she could have another 5 strong years...11 points in 5 years? Hmmmmm....
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Originally Posted by bangkokbobby View Post
Yes, it's 2 points only for a Major win, not 1 point for winning the tournament plus an additional 2 points for a Major...Se Ri Pak gained the requisite 27 points when she won the 2004 Michelob, she had 22 wins and 4 Majors at that time (she now has 25 wins and 5 Majors)...the points broke down

18 wins for 18 points
4 Majors for 8 points
2003 Vare Trophy for 1 point

...that gave her 27 points...but she had to wait a few more years to get the required 10 years on tour...

...what's interesting is that the 2003 Vare Trophy came in a year when Annika did not play enough rounds to qualify...so...I guess one could quibble a bit at the last point...however, by the time Se Ri was inducted she had 2 more wins, including a Major, the 2006 McDonald's LPGA Championship...

...is it too early to think HOF with Yani...well, yes and no...it is a lot of points away...17 points...there are a lot of great players like Cristie Kerr and Suzann Pettersen who don't have that for their careers yet...but on the other hand, how many players have 10 points one month past their 22nd birthday...
I don't know the answer but I'm wondering who else using the current point system accumulated so many points so fast and so early in her career? Nancy Lopez would be included with all the wins in her rookie year. Who else? Did anyone get 10 points in the first three years of their career and not go on to get 27 points?
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Originally Posted by canadianglen View Post
2 points for a major win. Is this not a little premature? Nobody would have thought Ochoa would not get in, either.
Lorena reached the 27 points, easily. The only thing outstanding is two more years of play. They don't have to be consecutive and there isn't a clear definition of "active" that I can find. She'll find a way to meet that requirement.
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Originally Posted by Blue View Post
I don't know the answer but I'm wondering who else using the current point system accumulated so many points so fast and so early in her career? Nancy Lopez would be included with all the wins in her rookie year. Who else? Did anyone get 10 points in the first three years of their career and not go on to get 27 points?
Se Ri Pak accumulated 10 points in her first 2 years.

1998 (rookie season)
McDonald's LPGA Championship (Major)
U.S. Women's Open (Major)
Jamie Farr Kroger Classic
Giant Eagle Classic

1999
ShopRite LPGA Classic
Jamie Farr Kroger Classic
Samsung World Championship of Women's Golf
PageNet LPGA Tour Championship

...then she suffered from burnout and ended up in a hospital in Korea...she did not win in 2000...however, she did come back to win 5 times in 2001...

YourLife Vitamins LPGA Classic
Longs Drugs Challenge
Jamie Farr Kroger Classic
Weetabix Women's British Open (Major)
AFLAC Champions

...5 times in 2002...

The Office Depot Hosted by Amy Alcott
McDonald's LPGA Championship (Major)
First Union Betsy King Classic
Mobile Tournament of Champions
Sports Today CJ Nine Bridges Classic

...and 3 times in 2003...

Safeway/Ping Presented by Yoplait
Chick-Fil-A Charity Championship
Jamie Farr Kroger Classic

...sometimes even I forget how great she was at her peak...overshadowed by what Annika was doing...

...but that is an interesting question you raise...has anybody, under the current system, accumulated 10 points in their first 3 years and not gone on to qualify for the HOF...that will take some research...
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I like the criteria for the LPGA Hall of Fame : only the best of the best get the honour.

In many sports,the merely good gain entry,by virtue of putting in a decent performance for a number of years,or dying,and getting the posthumous plaudits,but the LPGA has it pretty much spot-on.

Speaking of current,young players accumulating points quickly,Jiyai Shin's eight wins,including a Major,should give her nine points in a little over two full years on tour.

Or,is there a fly in the ointment regarding her WBO victory ?

She wasn't a member when she won her first three tournaments,including a Major,in 2008.

Will those count in the long run ?...

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Originally Posted by Saint-Just X View Post
Speaking of current,young players accumulating points quickly,Jiyai Shin's eight wins,including a Major,should give her nine points in a little over two full years on tour.

Or,is there a fly in the ointment regarding her WBO victory ?

She wasn't a member when she won her first three tournaments,including a Major,in 2008.

Will those count in the long run ?...
LPGA: Shin Victories All Count - Hound Dog LPGA
Per Connie Wilson at the LPGA office, Ji-Yai Shin's three victories in 2008 as a non-member count as official career victories and count in her Hall Of Fame total.
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Lorena reached the 27 points, easily. The only thing outstanding is two more years of play. They don't have to be consecutive and there isn't a clear definition of "active" that I can find.
An "active" year simply means competing in 10 official LPGA tournaments in a year.
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LPGA: Shin Victories All Count - Hound Dog LPGA
Per Connie Wilson at the LPGA office, Ji-Yai Shin's three victories in 2008 as a non-member count as official career victories and count in her Hall Of Fame total.
Thanks for the clarification,Sag...

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