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Old 02-07-2013, 12:28 PM   #1
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As the 2013 season will be starting next week it is time to talk about our contest.

After a great year last year this year should be even better. Contest will be the same as last year with a few modifications from the feedback from last year.

Here are a few of the changes. See complete rules below. The first contest for the Aus Open will be posted Monday Feb 11.

Please make any comments on the rules before Feb 11 so that the rules will be finalized for the year at the start of the first contest.

Rule Changes.

1. Instead of the 2,3,2 selection for the groups it will be 2,2,2
2. For each group a third choice will be made as an alternate:
a: If a player wd before the start of a tournament the alternate will be
used in her place.
b: If one of the 2 main players selected does not make the cut (if there
is a cut) the alternate player's score will be used for the rounds
after the cut and the original players score will be used for the
rounds before the cut.
c: If a player wd during the tournament that player's completed rounds
will count. The alternate player will be used for the remaining rounds.
d: In the event thru wd or missing the cut that there are less then the
required 2 players are remaining in the tournament for a group, the
contestant will be assigned the high score for that round for that
group.
3. Winner bonus points will not be split.
Winner bonus points will start at 5.
Bonus points for placing 2nd 4.
Bonus points for placing 3rd 3.
Bonus points for placing 4th 2.
Bonus points for placing 5th 1.
Bonus points will then multiplied by a current Rolex Ranking multiplier.
Ranking 1-5 x 1
Ranking 6-10 x 1.5
Ranking 11-20 x2
Ranking 21-40 x2.5
Ranking 41+ x 3

Missing the cut is -10

4. Scoring will be in decimals, no rounding.


2013 Contest rules.


The contest is open to all.

There will be a contest for each week that there is an official LPGA Tournament. There will be a contest winner for each Contest.

There will also be an overall season Contest winner based upon the points earned in the weekly contests.

Rules - It seems like a lot but is not really, However all the rules need to be detailed to be fair. The actual playing process is minimal.

Below are the Official Contest Rules.

1)There will be an contest for each week that there is an Official LPGA Tournament (including all majors).

2) The format of each weekly Tournament is as follows:

a. Players will be grouped into 3 groups. Group A, Group B and Group C.

b. The selections of the players in each group will be at the discretion of the Tournament Director from those players scheduled to play in the Tournament.
The groups will generally be determined by players of similar status, ability and historical significance.

c. Contestants will make 2 starting selections from group A, 2 starting selections from group B and 2 Starting from group C. Contestants will also make an alternate selection in each group. So in total the contestant will make 3 selections in each group. When the alternate choice appears ambiguous then the last type choice in each group will be considered the alternate choice.

d. Each contestant will then receive a score from each player that they have chosen for each round, with the following exceptions:

1: If a player wd before the start of a tournament the alternate will be
used in her place.
2: If one of the 2 main players selected does not make the cut (if there
is a cut) the alternate player's score will be used for the rounds
after the cut and the original players score will be used for the
rounds before the cut.
3: If a player wd during the tournament that player's completed rounds
will count. The alternate player will be used for the remaining rounds.
4: In the event thru wd or missing the cut that there are less then the
required 2 players are remaining in the tournament for a group, the
contestant will be assigned the high score for that round for that
group.


e. Contestants must post their selections prior to the first actual tee time for the first round. Contestants may make any number of changes to their selections prior to the first actual tee time of the first round.

f. There is an optional Tournament Winner Bonus selection that can be made by the contestant. Bonus as below.

Winner bonus points will not be split.
Winner bonus points will start at 5.
Bonus points for placing 2nd 4.
Bonus points for placing 3rd 3.
Bonus points for placing 4th 2.
Bonus points for placing 5th 1.
Bonus points will then multiplied by a current Rolex Ranking multiplier.
Ranking 1-5 x 1
Ranking 6-10 x 1.5
Ranking 11-20 x2
Ranking 21-40 x2.5
Ranking 41+ x 3

Missing the cut is -10



g. The Tournament Winner will be determined by lowest total score. Rankings will then be made from the next lowest scores. 1st place will receive 3 pts. 2nd place will receive 2 pts and 3rd place will receive 1 pt. Points are doubled for the LPGA majors. These points will be used to determine the Contestant of the Year. In case of a tie for a position, normal points will be distributed to each Contestant that tied for that position. The next points position will then be awarded in full. (ie If their is a tie for second both will receive full 2nd place points and the next person or persons in the scoring will receive full 3rd place points.)

h. Inquiries into scoring mistakes or evidence of cheating can be made either publicly in the Tournament thread, or privately to the Tournament Director.

i Decisions of the Tournament Director are Final.

3) Rulings made in the past for special circumstances are always valid unless overruled by new rule changes.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:43 PM   #2
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OK that is all the formal stuff to make sure that we have a fair fun contest.

Basically it's the same contest. Scoring should be closer this year.
Selections will be 2,2,2 with one alternate in each group. So it is really 3,3,3.
That should solve the wd issue. It will also make for closer scoring since the alternate can be used in place of a player missing the cut. If more then 1 miss the cut or wd then you are stuck. (Hey there has to be some sort of penalty).

Bonus points will not be split. That will stop that argument.
So to make it more competitive bonus points will be assigned on a sliding scale.
Higher ranked players will receive more bonus points. So play it safe or gamble.

I think that these improvements will make for a fair and closer contest.

Another option I was thinking about implementing was to allow you use your alternate choice to replace one of your starting players for the rounds after the cut. Assuming they are not being used for a player that missed the cut

I like that idea but 2 problems.

1) The new rules are going to make the scoring a lot tougher. It was hard enough to begin with.
2) The great part of the contest is that you do not need to do anything once the tournament starts. However, it does get you involved in following the tournament each week and will make the scoring even closer. So it is a toss up. Of course you do not have to make this switch if we implement this.

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Originally Posted by xman5 View Post
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In your example g above, the fourth place person would receive one point?
If there was a three way tie for first, a two way tie for second, then you will give out 14 total points?

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Originally Posted by cougar View Post
In your example g above, the fourth place person would receive one point?
If there was a three way tie for first, a two way tie for second, then you will give out 14 total points?
It has always been this way. This has not changed.
Yes in that example 14 points would given out.

This is the reason why I want to make all the rules known before hand.

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The only real changes are to the bonus points allocation and the alternate selection, which were the 2 complaints in the past.
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It has always been this way. This has not changed.
Yes in that example 14 points would given out.

This is the reason why I want to make all the rules known before hand.
Always good to know the rules beforehand. Thanks.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:50 PM   #9
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Nice changes. The new bonus system is a more elegant solution than the old point splitting, but much harder for you as the scorekeeper. Thank you for keeping the contest going!
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Old 02-07-2013, 09:43 PM   #10
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Nice changes. The new bonus system is a more elegant solution than the old point splitting, but much harder for you as the scorekeeper. Thank you for keeping the contest going!
I haven't even figured out how I am going to do it.

I think it makes it a better risk/reward for the individual and you are not tied to what others do.
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