AIB Ladies Irish Open

gxer · 08-09-2010, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by LoJo

....as opposed to Juli Inkster, the original Inky.

Lojo,

I had a question about qualifying for the LPGA tour Championship in another topic.

Just wondered if you knew the answer.

Here the question again, thanks.

What if a player wins enough money playing on exemptions to qualify for LPGA tour membership next year, do they also get into the field of the LPGA tour championship this year or not?

LoJo · 08-09-2010, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by gxer

Lojo,

I had a question about qualifying for the LPGA tour Championship in another topic.

Just wondered if you knew the answer.

Here the question again, thanks.

What if a player wins enough money playing on exemptions to qualify for LPGA tour membership next year, do they also get into the field of the LPGA tour championship this year or not?

I do not know the answer to that question.

I assume you're thinking about Lexi possibly earning enough....yes?

My guess is that she would not be qualified. I remember in the past when it was the limited field (32 player) ADT event, one had to be an LPGA member to earn ADT points (similar to PGA FedEx points) to qualify...OR, if a non-LPGA member won one of the majors, they were automatically in.

I have no idea now that they've made it a 120 player full field event what the qualifications are other than $ list. Though, it does say 120 LPGA professionals...whatever that means.

Saint-Just X · 08-09-2010, 02:52 PM

Has a non-member ever played in the season-ending event ?

You can see both points of view : if Miss Thompson wins more money than the player who's 120th on the (official) money list,shouldn't that give her the right to play ? On the other hand,as she isn't a member of the LPGA,why should she be anywhere near their tour championship ?

Can Hee-Kyung Seo play in it ? She's not a member,but she's won an LPGA tournament,this year...

Pax Vobiscum
Saint-Just X

gxer · 08-09-2010, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by LoJo

I do not know the answer to that question.

I assume you're thinking about Lexi possibly earning enough....yes?

My guess is that she would not be qualified. I remember in the past when it was the limited field (32 player) ADT event, one had to be an LPGA member to earn ADT points (similar to PGA FedEx points) to qualify...OR, if a non-LPGA member won one of the majors, they were automatically in.

I have no idea now that they've made it a 120 player full field event what the qualifications are other than $ list. Though, it does say 120 LPGA professionals...whatever that means.

OK, then I guess Lexi is going to have to win one of the three events remaining on her schedule, in which she has exemptions, and put the age exemption problem and the qualification for the LPGA tour Championship right in Smiley Whan's lap.

Blue · 08-09-2010, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Saint-Just X

Has a non-member ever played in the season-ending event ?

You can see both points of view : if Miss Thompson wins more money than the player who's 120th on the (official) money list,shouldn't that give her the right to play ? On the other hand,as she isn't a member of the LPGA,why should she be anywhere near their tour championship ?

Can Hee-Kyung Seo play in it ? She's not a member,but she's won an LPGA tournament,this year...

Pax Vobiscum
Saint-Just X

The LPGA doesn't believe that anyone has a "right to play." Logic and LPGA rules are often not on speaking terms.

gxer · 08-09-2010, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Saint-Just X

Has a non-member ever played in the season-ending event ?

You can see both points of view : if Miss Thompson wins more money than the player who's 120th on the (official) money list,shouldn't that give her the right to play ? On the other hand,as she isn't a member of the LPGA,why should she be anywhere near their tour championship ?

Can Hee-Kyung Seo play in it ? She's not a member,but she's won an LPGA tournament,this year...

Pax Vobiscum
Saint-Just X

I think Miss Seo can join the tour this year or next. She should join this year and get in on the action at the LPGA tour Championship.

xman5 · 08-09-2010, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Blue

The LPGA doesn't believe that anyone has a "right to play." Logic and LPGA rules are often not on speaking terms.

No but the have predefined criteria for the event that makes sense for the event.

It is the LPGA TOUR Championship. So it is for Tour Players. And on the odd chance that a non member wins a major they get to play. This event is a reward for TOUR Players.

Hint, Hint, Notice the bolding.

Blue · 08-09-2010, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by xman5

No but the have predefined criteria for the event that makes sense for the event.

It is the LPGA TOUR Championship. So it is for Tour Players. And on the odd chance that a non member wins a major they get to play. This event is a reward for TOUR Players.

Hint, Hint, Notice the bolding.

No need to yell.

I happen to agree with the LPGA in this case. I think there should be a season-ending championship that's open only to tour members. I would prefer that the Tour Championship be limited to fewer than the top 120 players but hopefully the top player will emerge the winner at the end of the tournament. It worked out that way last year.

I also believe it's true that the LPGA rules are not always logical. One case in point is their rule on "domestic full field" events, earnings in which count toward membership for non-membership. Except domestic also apparently includes Canada and Mexico. And for some reason the US Open does not count.

MarinePaul · 08-09-2010, 08:21 PM

The US Open doesn't count because it's not an LPGA event. It's a USGA event. "Domestic" seems to be North American, rather than just the States.

LoJo · 08-09-2010, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by Saint-Just X

Has a non-member ever played in the season-ending event ?

You can see both points of view : if Miss Thompson wins more money than the player who's 120th on the (official) money list,shouldn't that give her the right to play ? On the other hand,as she isn't a member of the LPGA,why should she be anywhere near their tour championship ?

Can Hee-Kyung Seo play in it ? She's not a member,but she's won an LPGA tournament,this year...

Pax Vobiscum
Saint-Just X

I don't know if a non-member has every played in the end of season event. My guess is no.

Regarding Seo....I doubt she can play since her win wasn't a Major. But who knows? Sometimes the LPGA seems to make up their eligibility criteria as they go along.

It's possible Lexi Thompson could get in this tourney if she continues her good play, and if the LPGA 'tweaks' their eligibility requirements to suit their need for including the "next big (American) thing" stuff. They found a way to get an AMATEUR (Wie) into the Ladies PROFESSIONAL Golf Association Championship a few years ago....so anything's possible.

08-09-2010, 01:34 PM	#21
gxer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,050	Originally Posted by LoJo ....as opposed to Juli Inkster, the original Inky. Lojo, I had a question about qualifying for the LPGA tour Championship in another topic. Just wondered if you knew the answer. Here the question again, thanks. What if a player wins enough money playing on exemptions to qualify for LPGA tour membership next year, do they also get into the field of the LPGA tour championship this year or not? __________________ *My "dream" girl: LPGA seasonal tour stats <=65.50 & >=270*

08-09-2010, 02:12 PM	#22
LoJo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Golf Course Posts: 2,217 Images: 1	Originally Posted by gxer Lojo, I had a question about qualifying for the LPGA tour Championship in another topic. Just wondered if you knew the answer. Here the question again, thanks. What if a player wins enough money playing on exemptions to qualify for LPGA tour membership next year, do they also get into the field of the LPGA tour championship this year or not? I do not know the answer to that question. I assume you're thinking about Lexi possibly earning enough....yes? My guess is that she would not be qualified. I remember in the past when it was the limited field (32 player) ADT event, one had to be an LPGA member to earn ADT points (similar to PGA FedEx points) to qualify...OR, if a non-LPGA member won one of the majors, they were automatically in. I have no idea now that they've made it a 120 player full field event what the qualifications are other than $ list. Though, it does say 120 LPGA professionals...whatever that means.

08-09-2010, 02:52 PM	#23
Saint-Just X Senior Member Contests: Joint 3nd place overall winner 2010 Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,675	Has a non-member ever played in the season-ending event ? You can see both points of view : if Miss Thompson wins more money than the player who's 120th on the (official) money list,shouldn't that give her the right to play ? On the other hand,as she isn't a member of the LPGA,why should she be anywhere near their tour championship ? Can Hee-Kyung Seo play in it ? She's not a member,but she's won an LPGA tournament,this year... Pax Vobiscum Saint-Just X __________________ I have sent the most relevant posts you made about Paula Creamer to her lawyers. Hope they take action against your statements - Elf

08-09-2010, 02:57 PM	#24
gxer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,050	Originally Posted by LoJo I do not know the answer to that question. I assume you're thinking about Lexi possibly earning enough....yes? My guess is that she would not be qualified. I remember in the past when it was the limited field (32 player) ADT event, one had to be an LPGA member to earn ADT points (similar to PGA FedEx points) to qualify...OR, if a non-LPGA member won one of the majors, they were automatically in. I have no idea now that they've made it a 120 player full field event what the qualifications are other than $ list. Though, it does say 120 LPGA professionals...whatever that means. OK, then I guess Lexi is going to have to win one of the three events remaining on her schedule, in which she has exemptions, and put the age exemption problem and the qualification for the LPGA tour Championship right in Smiley Whan's lap. __________________ *My "dream" girl: LPGA seasonal tour stats <=65.50 & >=270*

08-09-2010, 03:30 PM	#25
Blue Forum Moderator Contests: Joint 3rd place overall winner 2009. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,650 Images: 6	Originally Posted by Saint-Just X Has a non-member ever played in the season-ending event ? You can see both points of view : if Miss Thompson wins more money than the player who's 120th on the (official) money list,shouldn't that give her the right to play ? On the other hand,as she isn't a member of the LPGA,why should she be anywhere near their tour championship ? Can Hee-Kyung Seo play in it ? She's not a member,but she's won an LPGA tournament,this year... Pax Vobiscum Saint-Just X The LPGA doesn't believe that anyone has a "right to play." Logic and LPGA rules are often not on speaking terms.

08-09-2010, 03:35 PM	#26
gxer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,050	Originally Posted by Saint-Just X Has a non-member ever played in the season-ending event ? You can see both points of view : if Miss Thompson wins more money than the player who's 120th on the (official) money list,shouldn't that give her the right to play ? On the other hand,as she isn't a member of the LPGA,why should she be anywhere near their tour championship ? Can Hee-Kyung Seo play in it ? She's not a member,but she's won an LPGA tournament,this year... Pax Vobiscum Saint-Just X I think Miss Seo can join the tour this year or next. She should join this year and get in on the action at the LPGA tour Championship. __________________ *My "dream" girl: LPGA seasonal tour stats <=65.50 & >=270*

08-09-2010, 03:37 PM	#27
xman5 Contest Statistician Join Date: May 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 3,903	Originally Posted by Blue The LPGA doesn't believe that anyone has a "right to play." Logic and LPGA rules are often not on speaking terms. No but the have predefined criteria for the event that makes sense for the event. It is the LPGA TOUR Championship. So it is for Tour Players. And on the odd chance that a non member wins a major they get to play. This event is a reward for TOUR Players. Hint, Hint, Notice the bolding.

08-09-2010, 03:51 PM	#28
Blue Forum Moderator Contests: Joint 3rd place overall winner 2009. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,650 Images: 6	Originally Posted by xman5 No but the have predefined criteria for the event that makes sense for the event. It is the LPGA TOUR Championship. So it is for Tour Players. And on the odd chance that a non member wins a major they get to play. This event is a reward for TOUR Players. Hint, Hint, Notice the bolding. No need to yell. I happen to agree with the LPGA in this case. I think there should be a season-ending championship that's open only to tour members. I would prefer that the Tour Championship be limited to fewer than the top 120 players but hopefully the top player will emerge the winner at the end of the tournament. It worked out that way last year. I also believe it's true that the LPGA rules are not always logical. One case in point is their rule on "domestic full field" events, earnings in which count toward membership for non-membership. Except domestic also apparently includes Canada and Mexico. And for some reason the US Open does not count.

08-09-2010, 08:21 PM	#29
MarinePaul Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Warren, Ohio Posts: 8,002	The US Open doesn't count because it's not an LPGA event. It's a USGA event. "Domestic" seems to be North American, rather than just the States. __________________ Happiness isn't getting what you want, it's wanting what you have.

08-09-2010, 09:45 PM	#30
LoJo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Golf Course Posts: 2,217 Images: 1	Originally Posted by Saint-Just X Has a non-member ever played in the season-ending event ? You can see both points of view : if Miss Thompson wins more money than the player who's 120th on the (official) money list,shouldn't that give her the right to play ? On the other hand,as she isn't a member of the LPGA,why should she be anywhere near their tour championship ? Can Hee-Kyung Seo play in it ? She's not a member,but she's won an LPGA tournament,this year... Pax Vobiscum Saint-Just X I don't know if a non-member has every played in the end of season event. My guess is no. Regarding Seo....I doubt she can play since her win wasn't a Major. But who knows? Sometimes the LPGA seems to make up their eligibility criteria as they go along. It's possible Lexi Thompson could get in this tourney if she continues her good play, and if the LPGA 'tweaks' their eligibility requirements to suit their need for including the "next big (American) thing" stuff. They found a way to get an AMATEUR (Wie) into the Ladies PROFESSIONAL Golf Association Championship a few years ago....so anything's possible.

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