Bivens has support

greentee · 07-09-2009, 09:37 PM

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SJX said - As far as I'm concerned,the sooner she's gone,the better.

Should work, Bivens gets richer and a chance to try elsewere.... the players get a new leader, and maybe lessen the fear of a lost occupation.... and most fans are happy for the rest of the year as hope revives.... and the media has a topic to stretch event to event, with no dead air space. Should work. ;-)

Humm.... I wonder which worked best in the start of her last name.... the Bi, as in buy into.... or the Bi as in cya baby. Naaa.... just joke-walking over the grave.... I am very giddy for some reason today.... I better have a soda. :-)

MarinePaul · 07-09-2009, 10:00 PM

Golfnut, neither Mann nor Suggs have anything to lose if the LPGA continues to lose tournaments. Their incomes won't be effected one way or the other. The players who drafted and signed the letter calling for Bivens ouster do, in fact, have a financial interest in what happens. Mann and Suggs are a great part of the LPGA's past, but the players in question are looking to the future.

MarinePaul · 07-09-2009, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by greentee

.Humm.... I wonder which worked best in the start of her last name.... the Bi, as in buy into.... or the Bi as in cya baby. Naaa.... just joke-walking over the grave.... I am very giddy for some reason today.... I better have a soda. :-)

Not sure what any of that means.

greentee · 07-09-2009, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by MarinePaul

Not sure what any of that means.

Thats the giddy part. :-)

As to what you talk about with golfnut.... as for moving out Bivens, looks like those who signed a letter could and would if they had to pay her out to see her gone. 1.5 mil is not out of their ball park. ;-)

Not so giddy now, had a soda. :)

golfnut · 07-10-2009, 01:38 PM

i disagree with you on this one marinepaul. those players helped to create the lpga. i think they have a much more vested interest and insight into whats going on then any of us here.

MarinePaul · 07-10-2009, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by golfnut

i disagree with you on this one marinepaul. those players helped to create the lpga. i think they have a much more vested interest and insight into whats going on then any of us here.

Vested interest in the success, no doubt. The have no financial interest, though. That's what the current players are bitching about, and rightly so.

golfnut · 07-10-2009, 05:34 PM

i also trust these respected player's opinions. they still have a lot of involvement with the lpga, particularly suggs. i think they can judge a lot better what is going on than those of us here. after all, they have more of a vested interest than even we do. in addition i also read an article just a few days ago that said rosie jones along with several other players still support bivens, so what does that mean? i think the truth lies somewhere in the middle in this whole fiasco.

Oliver Chettle · 07-17-2009, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by heddwyn

Which means, gxer, chromosomes have a part in it.

I'm not suddenly throwing my support behind Bivens, but I'd bet some of the long term sponsors would not expect an aggressive stance from the 'little lady'. Sorry, guys, but the stereotype still exists in the boardroom.

When, exactly, would have been a good time for all this to blow up?

I would bet that if Bivens was a man she would have been sacked last year. It is contemptible for these ancient gender warriors to play this card. Equality means accepting responsibility, but they don't seem to get that.

MarinePaul · 07-17-2009, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Oliver Chettle

I would bet that if Bivens was a man she would have been sacked last year. It is contemptible for these ancient gender warriors to play this card. Equality means accepting responsibility, but they don't seem to get that.

Good point, well made.

Buzzer · 07-17-2009, 06:58 PM

That is why I like C. Rice for commish.....the men can't intimidate her.....she has already gone up against the toughest.

Viva Annika

07-09-2009, 09:37 PM	#21
greentee Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,484 Images: 4	. SJX said - As far as I'm concerned,the sooner she's gone,the better. Should work, Bivens gets richer and a chance to try elsewere.... the players get a new leader, and maybe lessen the fear of a lost occupation.... and most fans are happy for the rest of the year as hope revives.... and the media has a topic to stretch event to event, with no dead air space. Should work. ;-) Humm.... I wonder which worked best in the start of her last name.... the Bi, as in buy into.... or the Bi as in cya baby. Naaa.... just joke-walking over the grave.... I am very giddy for some reason today.... I better have a soda. :-) __________________ ... I am not a tree, I am a tee... hit me, ah... wait a minute...

07-09-2009, 10:00 PM	#22
MarinePaul Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Warren, Ohio Posts: 8,002	Golfnut, neither Mann nor Suggs have anything to lose if the LPGA continues to lose tournaments. Their incomes won't be effected one way or the other. The players who drafted and signed the letter calling for Bivens ouster do, in fact, have a financial interest in what happens. Mann and Suggs are a great part of the LPGA's past, but the players in question are looking to the future. __________________ Happiness isn't getting what you want, it's wanting what you have.

07-09-2009, 10:01 PM	#23
MarinePaul Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Warren, Ohio Posts: 8,002	Originally Posted by greentee .Humm.... I wonder which worked best in the start of her last name.... the Bi, as in buy into.... or the Bi as in cya baby. Naaa.... just joke-walking over the grave.... I am very giddy for some reason today.... I better have a soda. :-) Not sure what any of that means. __________________ Happiness isn't getting what you want, it's wanting what you have.

07-09-2009, 10:56 PM	#24
greentee Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,484 Images: 4	Originally Posted by MarinePaul Not sure what any of that means. Thats the giddy part. :-) As to what you talk about with golfnut.... as for moving out Bivens, looks like those who signed a letter could and would if they had to pay her out to see her gone. 1.5 mil is not out of their ball park. ;-) Not so giddy now, had a soda. :) __________________ ... I am not a tree, I am a tee... hit me, ah... wait a minute... Last edited by greentee; 07-09-2009 at 11:01 PM.

07-10-2009, 01:51 PM	#26
MarinePaul Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Warren, Ohio Posts: 8,002	Originally Posted by golfnut i disagree with you on this one marinepaul. those players helped to create the lpga. i think they have a much more vested interest and insight into whats going on then any of us here. Vested interest in the success, no doubt. The have no financial interest, though. That's what the current players are bitching about, and rightly so. __________________ Happiness isn't getting what you want, it's wanting what you have.

07-10-2009, 01:38 PM	#25
golfnut Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mandeville, Louisiana Posts: 484	i disagree with you on this one marinepaul. those players helped to create the lpga. i think they have a much more vested interest and insight into whats going on then any of us here.

07-10-2009, 05:34 PM	#27
golfnut Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mandeville, Louisiana Posts: 484	i also trust these respected player's opinions. they still have a lot of involvement with the lpga, particularly suggs. i think they can judge a lot better what is going on than those of us here. after all, they have more of a vested interest than even we do. in addition i also read an article just a few days ago that said rosie jones along with several other players still support bivens, so what does that mean? i think the truth lies somewhere in the middle in this whole fiasco.

07-17-2009, 04:46 PM	#28
Oliver Chettle Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 17	Originally Posted by heddwyn Which means, gxer, chromosomes have a part in it. I'm not suddenly throwing my support behind Bivens, but I'd bet some of the long term sponsors would not expect an aggressive stance from the 'little lady'. Sorry, guys, but the stereotype still exists in the boardroom. When, exactly, would have been a good time for all this to blow up? I would bet that if Bivens was a man she would have been sacked last year. It is contemptible for these ancient gender warriors to play this card. Equality means accepting responsibility, but they don't seem to get that.

07-17-2009, 05:15 PM	#29
MarinePaul Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Warren, Ohio Posts: 8,002	Originally Posted by Oliver Chettle I would bet that if Bivens was a man she would have been sacked last year. It is contemptible for these ancient gender warriors to play this card. Equality means accepting responsibility, but they don't seem to get that. Good point, well made. __________________ Happiness isn't getting what you want, it's wanting what you have.

07-17-2009, 06:58 PM	#30
Buzzer Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hilton Head, SC Posts: 2,831 Images: 13	That is why I like C. Rice for commish.....the men can't intimidate her.....she has already gone up against the toughest. Viva Annika

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