Bivens Article

wiefan · 06-20-2009, 04:55 PM

Hi ya folks....hereis what I found most intriguing about Rossi's terriffic post....it is the "Carolyn " thing....

if next year is her last of her contract....I am interested to see if the LPGA offers her a "renewal"....if they don't, then perhaps the anti-Carolyn forces were more correct than me

but here is what I find interesting....suppose the LPGA does offer Carolyn a "Renewal"....will Carolyn accept it or not....I am sure she knows she has gone through the "washing machine ringer"....will she want to go through this again....is she a "Glutton for Punishment" and loves this "S&M" sensations....hmmmm

for those of you that don't know what I am talking about when I say "Washing Machine Ringer"....in the olden days, the washing machine did NOT have a "Spin" cycle....instead...there were TWO Parrallel rollers that allowed your clothes to be SQUEEZED between these two rollers and thus a lot of the water was squeezed out....you then "hung your clothes out to dry"....sort of like what is happening to Carolyn....Take the Heat of the dissentions and then Hang her out to dry....wow Folks....HOW DO I THINK OF THESE ANALOGIES.....it is a GIFT....a good gift or Bad gift??...I dunno....but it just ZOOOOOMS out of my lips....just kidding folks

have a good day everyone...see ya!!

heddwyn · 06-20-2009, 05:24 PM

Y'know what, WF? You tick me off BIG TIME!! You are happy to gratefully (and gushingly) accept what Rossi said, which is pretty much what I said about paying out a contract, Michelle Ellis working hard etc etc, yet you questioned and carried on about my same take on things!

fuzzy logic · 06-20-2009, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by wiefan

but here is what I find interesting....suppose the LPGA does offer Carolyn a "Renewal"....will Carolyn accept it or not....I am sure she knows she has gone through the "washing machine ringer"....will she want to go through this again....is she a "Glutton for Punishment" and loves this "S&M" sensations....hmmmm

for those of you that don't know what I am talking about when I say "Washing Machine Ringer"....in the olden days, the washing machine did NOT have a "Spin" cycle....instead...there were TWO Parrallel rollers that allowed your clothes to be SQUEEZED between these two rollers and thus a lot of the water was squeezed out....you then "hung your clothes out to dry"....sort of like what is happening to Carolyn....Take the Heat of the dissentions and then Hang her out to dry....wow Folks....HOW DO I THINK OF THESE ANALOGIES.....it is a GIFT....a good gift or Bad gift??...I dunno....but it just ZOOOOOMS out of my lips....just kidding folks

have a good day everyone...see ya!!

I think it was the beating on the rocks with that stick, that really hurts, before being put through the ringer, and hung out to dry.

MarinePaul · 06-20-2009, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by heddwyn

Y'know what, WF? You tick me off BIG TIME!! You are happy to gratefully (and gushingly) accept what Rossi said, which is pretty much what I said about paying out a contract, Michelle Ellis working hard etc etc, yet you questioned and carried on about my same take on things!

Are you surprised? Seriously, are you surprised by his kissing up to Rossi, even after your same points were wrong, according to Mr. Bivens/Wie?

wiefan · 06-20-2009, 07:24 PM

Hi ya Hedwynn and Marinepaul....hey folks!!....don't get "ticked off" and get your panties all tied up in a knot....Rossi is an "Inside the ropes" person in my opinion....her opinion and comments according to my WieBrain is more Valid than any Anti-Carolyn poster's already Biased opinion, anti-Carolyn Article Writer, or anti-Carolyn "I cannot reveal the source" source

folks...look at it this way....remember when I said "All of us here are NOT affected financially in whatever Carolyn does"....well folks....Rossi is a LPGA Caddie....thus she IS AFFECTED by the actions of Carolyn....this is why I take her view more than I would any of you....if it is the same, Kudos to you, but if it is different, I support what Rossi says more than I would any of you....SHE HAS A STAKE FINANCIALLY IN THIS....the rest of you do not....simple huh!!

now about what Rossi said.....I think it is safe to say that we all pretty much knew that Michelle Ellis was working really hard...this was a given, hedwynn

I think we all pretty much knew that if you fire someone before his contract is over, you are liable to this contract, unless the person Breeched something in the contract....this is also another given, Hedwynn

geeze Hedwynn....I didn't Jump and hollar that Michelle Ellis wasn't hard at work or that Carolyn had a contract that wouldn't have to be paid out maybe.....Heck!! I didn't write a ten page essay about these points...thus you should have taken it for granted that I knew about this and wasn't in super dissagreement

by the way....what is with this "WF"....my middle name is "Thaddius"....so does this mean that the next time you say my name, it will be "WTF"....hmmm

Hedwynn....take a deep breath...inhale and exhale....don't get bent out of shape on this site....RELAX....pet your dog....drink a cool beverage....then after you have done all of this....sit down to your computer and just type this

"You Know, after really thinking about this whole situation....I think Carolyn Biven is doing an EXCELLENT Job....Thank "WTF", for helping me to see the Truth and logic"

hedwynn...after you type the above quote...I will answer...."No Problem Hedwynn, you are still my buddy from Down Under"

have a good day folks....see ya!!!

MarinePaul · 06-20-2009, 07:38 PM

She's doing a good job in your opinion, Wiefan. Some of us happen to disagree.

wiefan · 06-20-2009, 08:22 PM

Hi ya Marine paul....yep you are correct...that is my opinion....I know that I am in the vast super-VAST MINORITY with this opinion....but being in the minority doesn't necessarily mean that the Majority is correct

here is a good example of the Majority being incorrect....I am sure that the Majority of posters here all thought Wiesy and Natalie would easily make the Qualifying....well...it seems like the Majority opinion failed here

have a good day.....lots more stuff to come yet...before you hang Carolyn out to dry....probably more info then even you and I even know about...see ya!!

06-20-2009, 05:41 PM	#53
fuzzy logic Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 99	Originally Posted by wiefan but here is what I find interesting....suppose the LPGA does offer Carolyn a "Renewal"....will Carolyn accept it or not....I am sure she knows she has gone through the "washing machine ringer"....will she want to go through this again....is she a "Glutton for Punishment" and loves this "S&M" sensations....hmmmm for those of you that don't know what I am talking about when I say "Washing Machine Ringer"....in the olden days, the washing machine did NOT have a "Spin" cycle....instead...there were TWO Parrallel rollers that allowed your clothes to be SQUEEZED between these two rollers and thus a lot of the water was squeezed out....you then "hung your clothes out to dry"....sort of like what is happening to Carolyn....Take the Heat of the dissentions and then Hang her out to dry....wow Folks....HOW DO I THINK OF THESE ANALOGIES.....it is a GIFT....a good gift or Bad gift??...I dunno....but it just ZOOOOOMS out of my lips....just kidding folks have a good day everyone...see ya!! I think it was the beating on the rocks with that stick, that really hurts, before being put through the ringer, and hung out to dry.

06-20-2009, 05:41 PM	#54
MarinePaul Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Warren, Ohio Posts: 8,002	Originally Posted by heddwyn Y'know what, WF? You tick me off BIG TIME!! You are happy to gratefully (and gushingly) accept what Rossi said, which is pretty much what I said about paying out a contract, Michelle Ellis working hard etc etc, yet you questioned and carried on about my same take on things! Are you surprised? Seriously, are you surprised by his kissing up to Rossi, even after your same points were wrong, according to Mr. Bivens/Wie? __________________ Happiness isn't getting what you want, it's wanting what you have.

06-20-2009, 07:38 PM	#56
MarinePaul Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Warren, Ohio Posts: 8,002	She's doing a good job in your opinion, Wiefan. Some of us happen to disagree. __________________ Happiness isn't getting what you want, it's wanting what you have.

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06-20-2009, 04:55 PM	#51
wiefan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,135	Hi ya folks....hereis what I found most intriguing about Rossi's terriffic post....it is the "Carolyn " thing.... if next year is her last of her contract....I am interested to see if the LPGA offers her a "renewal"....if they don't, then perhaps the anti-Carolyn forces were more correct than me but here is what I find interesting....suppose the LPGA does offer Carolyn a "Renewal"....will Carolyn accept it or not....I am sure she knows she has gone through the "washing machine ringer"....will she want to go through this again....is she a "Glutton for Punishment" and loves this "S&M" sensations....hmmmm for those of you that don't know what I am talking about when I say "Washing Machine Ringer"....in the olden days, the washing machine did NOT have a "Spin" cycle....instead...there were TWO Parrallel rollers that allowed your clothes to be SQUEEZED between these two rollers and thus a lot of the water was squeezed out....you then "hung your clothes out to dry"....sort of like what is happening to Carolyn....Take the Heat of the dissentions and then Hang her out to dry....wow Folks....HOW DO I THINK OF THESE ANALOGIES.....it is a GIFT....a good gift or Bad gift??...I dunno....but it just ZOOOOOMS out of my lips....just kidding folks have a good day everyone...see ya!!

06-20-2009, 05:24 PM	#52
heddwyn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,380	Y'know what, WF? You tick me off BIG TIME!! You are happy to gratefully (and gushingly) accept what Rossi said, which is pretty much what I said about paying out a contract, Michelle Ellis working hard etc etc, yet you questioned and carried on about my same take on things!

06-20-2009, 07:24 PM	#55
wiefan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,135	Hi ya Hedwynn and Marinepaul....hey folks!!....don't get "ticked off" and get your panties all tied up in a knot....Rossi is an "Inside the ropes" person in my opinion....her opinion and comments according to my WieBrain is more Valid than any Anti-Carolyn poster's already Biased opinion, anti-Carolyn Article Writer, or anti-Carolyn "I cannot reveal the source" source folks...look at it this way....remember when I said "All of us here are NOT affected financially in whatever Carolyn does"....well folks....Rossi is a LPGA Caddie....thus she IS AFFECTED by the actions of Carolyn....this is why I take her view more than I would any of you....if it is the same, Kudos to you, but if it is different, I support what Rossi says more than I would any of you....SHE HAS A STAKE FINANCIALLY IN THIS....the rest of you do not....simple huh!! now about what Rossi said.....I think it is safe to say that we all pretty much knew that Michelle Ellis was working really hard...this was a given, hedwynn I think we all pretty much knew that if you fire someone before his contract is over, you are liable to this contract, unless the person Breeched something in the contract....this is also another given, Hedwynn geeze Hedwynn....I didn't Jump and hollar that Michelle Ellis wasn't hard at work or that Carolyn had a contract that wouldn't have to be paid out maybe.....Heck!! I didn't write a ten page essay about these points...thus you should have taken it for granted that I knew about this and wasn't in super dissagreement by the way....what is with this "WF"....my middle name is "Thaddius"....so does this mean that the next time you say my name, it will be "WTF"....hmmm Hedwynn....take a deep breath...inhale and exhale....don't get bent out of shape on this site....RELAX....pet your dog....drink a cool beverage....then after you have done all of this....sit down to your computer and just type this "You Know, after really thinking about this whole situation....I think Carolyn Biven is doing an EXCELLENT Job....Thank "WTF", for helping me to see the Truth and logic" hedwynn...after you type the above quote...I will answer...."No Problem Hedwynn, you are still my buddy from Down Under" have a good day folks....see ya!!!

06-20-2009, 08:22 PM	#57
wiefan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,135	Hi ya Marine paul....yep you are correct...that is my opinion....I know that I am in the vast super-VAST MINORITY with this opinion....but being in the minority doesn't necessarily mean that the Majority is correct here is a good example of the Majority being incorrect....I am sure that the Majority of posters here all thought Wiesy and Natalie would easily make the Qualifying....well...it seems like the Majority opinion failed here have a good day.....lots more stuff to come yet...before you hang Carolyn out to dry....probably more info then even you and I even know about...see ya!!