Bivens Article

[Blue]

The biggest issue with the Golf Channel deal is that the broadcasts will be tape delayed. I raised this question when the deal was first announced and the LPGA admitted that, yes, the broadcasts probably would be tape delayed.

The LPGA is never going to build excitement for their product if they show events that happened 8 hours earlier. Everyone can, and will, already find out what happened from the internet and from TGC's own news reports. To top it off, the broadcasts have the tone of a post-mortem.

The argument may be that they can't broadcast live because fans will be watching men's golf. Even if that is true, and I'd like to see some research proving that, you can't run and hide. There is always some other sport or some other program to watch.

[gxer]

Originally Posted by Blue

The biggest issue with the Golf Channel deal is that the broadcasts will be tape delayed. I raised this question when the deal was first announced and the LPGA admitted that, yes, the broadcasts probably would be tape delayed.

The LPGA is never going to build excitement for their product if they show events that happened 8 hours earlier. Everyone can, and will, already find out what happened from the internet and from TGC's own news reports. To top it off, the broadcasts have the tone of a post-mortem.

The argument may be that they can't broadcast live because fans will be watching men's golf. Even if that is true, and I'd like to see some research proving that, you can't run and hide. There is always some other sport or some other program to watch.

Blue,

Just a reminder. TGC signed a long term contract with the PGA TOUR a few years ago. What that means is this. When TGC covers PGA TOUR events, TGC will cover them live, all other tours will be covered within the remaining broadcast time using tape delay as needed.

[Blue]

Originally Posted by gxer

Blue,

Just a reminder. TGC signed a long term contract with the PGA TOUR a few years ago. What that means is this. When TGC covers PGA TOUR events, TGC will cover them live, all other tours will be covered within the remaining broadcast time using tape delay as needed.

They're only covering PGA Tour events on Thursday and Friday for the most part, right?

[gxer]

Originally Posted by Blue

They're only covering PGA Tour events on Thursday and Friday for the most part, right?

TGC covers all 4 rounds of some early season events plus all 4 rounds of the fall series events.

PS: Don't forget, TGC also covers the Nationwide and Champions tour events. Regular Champions tour events, which I seldom watch, are on tape delay most of the time.

[fuzzy logic]

Originally Posted by gxer

TGC covers all 4 rounds of some early season events plus all 4 rounds of the fall series events.

PS: Don't forget, TGC also covers the Nationwide and Champions tour events. Regular Champions tour events, which I seldom watch, are on tape delay most of the time.

Should the TGC exclusive coverage of the LPGA next year be tape delayed, the LPGA will never get the rating it needs to attract new sponsors and fill their already anemic schedule?

[dangerbob]

Originally Posted by fuzzy logic

Should the TGC exclusive coverage of the LPGA next year be tape delayed, the LPGA will never get the rating it needs to attract new sponsors and fill their already anemic schedule?

Like my role model Greentee says, "they're all assumptions." We just have to wait and see.

[wiefan]

Hi ya hedwynn....YOU ARE ONE TOUGH CEO!!....I don't think even a "crowbar" will get you off your seat....Kudos to you

tell me if I am incorrect....I think I read where one of those "Previous Voltaw administrators" was axed because she was doing "unofficial" Talks (without Carolyn's Knowledge and/or approval) with the Harrisons during this delay stall tactics by the Harrison's....now CEO Hedwynn, if a member of your staff did something like this behind your back and din't tell you, the CEO, about what she was doing....would you LIKE THIS as the NEW CEO???....as the CEO, wouldn't you like to be informed as to what your staff might be doing with the "other side"....as a CEO, you set rules that you want your Staff to follow....when you see a staff Member BREAK this rule that you have set and one that EVERYONE else is following....don't you think this warrents a "concern" on your part that this staff member is "Not Playing like one of the TEAM"

hedwynn...you talk about "loyalty" a lot of times...so what do you do when you find out that one of your staff Members is NOT LOYAL....and especially a Staff Member that you do not know too well except that she had the same job with the previous administration

ok "Steadfast in the Chair Hedwynn"...whadda ya do...do you do like Carolyn and fire that person....or do you give that person a RAISE

anyway....have a good day Hedwynn....ya gotta come off that chair sometime Hedwynn....Holy Bathroom Break Batman....just kidding hedwynn....see ya!!

[MarinePaul]

Wiefan, what about the Bivens- hired employees who resigned early into her administration? Did you forget about them, or were they merely rats deserting a sinking ship?

Bivens has done more harm than good, whether or not you agree with the majority of us who seem to hold that view. You can rant and rave, make your "short and sweet" posts a novelette- legnthed read, and still not convince us.

The entire time Bivens has been on board as commissioner, the number of tournaments has dwindled, there has been controversy on a regular basis, and fiasco after fiasco. Justify that all you want, but those are facts. It's not all due to the economy. She spent her first year pissing off long- time supporters of the LPGA with her strong- arm tactics. What did we get? The short- lived Ginn tournaments. Yeah, she's a real dynamo.

[heddwyn]

The staff member concerned was probably worried about the shopping discounts they were going to lose and cosying up to Shoprite as a result.

One would hope Bivens asked wtf was going on, and the matter was discussed, rather than Bivens pulling a Trump stunt and just saying 'You're fired!'. Sometimes it might be expedient to give someone a raise or upgrade their position to move them sideways and into a position you can keep an eye on them. After that, if things don't work out, you might let them go, obvious personality clashes will sort themselves out earlier. Votaw obviously employed or kept these people on for a reason, I think it sensible to make sure they aren't dead wood before getting out the gun.

As MP said, there are several Bivens hirings who didn't last five minutes.

Of course, these days employers don't give a toss about loyalty or experience, except for it all being directed towards them. No matter how much they spend on training they don't care because it's a nice tax write off.

You know what the churning rate is in call centres, WF? Not sure about the USA, or India or wherever your call centres are, but in Oz they expect ... expect ... a complete turnover of call centre staff within 2 years. They don't care about the lost of good personnel and the experience which goes with it. At least BT in the UK had finally implemented a policy of treating their call centre staff like human beings.

Again on loyalty WF, I'll give you an example. The call centre I work in recently under went a radical change with implement 'Service Counts', given the whole thing is about customer service they seemed rather late in coming to this idea, but I digress. All the paperwork, all the talk about it kept on about service and about loyalty, yet in the next breath they said if you don't like it we suggest you look elsewhere for work. Huh??? How about 'If you have any concerns, please talk to us, let's see how we can work things out', or 'If this is something you don't feel you can deliver, we'll work together to find a solution, or perhaps there is another department you can work in'. That kind of thing doesn't give me warm fuzzy feelings about my employer!

[dangerbob]

Originally Posted by heddwyn

I'm not about to apologise either, the players have lost a lot more since Bivens has been Commissioner than they have gained. There may be fault on both sides, but given the sponsors who are the ones putting their hands in their pockets they are the ones who say whether the additional $$ Bivens is holding out for are worth it to them. So who is really at fault? The sponsors who were prepared to continue to put money up front, albeit at a price which suited them but no less than it had been, or Bivens who wanted way more money, and put restrictions on this, that and the other with regard to the tournaments?

I wouldn't blame that on Bivens...I would blame it on the Marine's big daddy, Mr. George Bush. It's a domino effect of Mr. W's incompetent administration.
When a tree weathers...you don't blame the branches...you go to the roots!