Bivens analysis.

gxer · 07-15-2009, 07:43 PM

I don't know if this article is fair or not but it doesn't pull any punches.

PS: I wish I knew what this was about.
Bivens began her tenure as LPGA commissioner in September 2005 and drew immediate criticism when Barb Trammell, a longtime LPGA official, was dismissed the next month for refusing to give a veteran player preferential treatment

LPGA Tour | Relationships doomed Bivens

Blue · 07-15-2009, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by gxer

PS: I wish I knew what this was about.
Bivens began her tenure as LPGA commissioner in September 2005 and drew immediate criticism when Barb Trammell, a longtime LPGA official, was dismissed the next month for refusing to give a veteran player preferential treatment

I think it was the incident in which Juli Inkster missed the application deadline for an event and Barb didn't bend the rules to let her in. I can't remember if Bivens over-rode the decision or not. I bet sag, cleo or LoJo will know the answer.

heddwyn · 07-15-2009, 08:15 PM

Gotta love Laura Davies!

gxer · 07-16-2009, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by heddwyn

Gotta love Laura Davies!

Is this what you are referring to?
If so, what sort of favors do you think Laura wanted?
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Davies, for one, won’t shed a tear over Bivens’ departure.

“She never did me any favors,” she said.

LoJo · 07-16-2009, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Blue

I think it was the incident in which Juli Inkster missed the application deadline for an event and Barb didn't bend the rules to let her in. I can't remember if Bivens over-rode the decision or not. I bet sag, cleo or LoJo will know the answer.

It was allegedly Juli Inkster, as you said. I think the tourney was the Wendy's. And....I don't think Bivens over-rode Trammell's decision. But I think Bivens was p.o'ed at Barb (for following the rules).

Initially, I thought it was something to do w/ Beth Daniel, but I recall now that had to do with her being given preferential treatment for missing a one in four rule for some tourney.

gxer · 07-16-2009, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by LoJo

It was allegedly Juli Inkster, as you said. I think the tourney was the Wendy's. And....I don't think Bivens over-rode Trammell's decision. But I think Bivens was p.o'ed at Barb (for following the rules).

Initially, I thought it was something to do w/ Beth Daniel, but I recall now that had to do with her being given preferential treatment for missing a one in four rule for some tourney.

This still doesn't make sense. If Bivens wanted "Juli" in and Trammell said no, because letting "Juli" in at a late date, breaks written rules, how in the hell could Bivens justify firing Trammell to the BOD?

MarinePaul · 07-16-2009, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by gxer

This still doesn't make sense. If Bivens wanted "Juli" in and Trammell said no, because letting "Juli" in at a late date, breaks written rules, how in the hell could Bivens justify firing Trammell to the BOD?

Bivens never felt she had to justify anything

xman5 · 07-16-2009, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by gxer

This still doesn't make sense. If Bivens wanted "Juli" in and Trammell said no, because letting "Juli" in at a late date, breaks written rules, how in the hell could Bivens justify firing Trammell to the BOD?

I don't know anything about this story, but couldn't the commish overrule her on this or any other issue.

gxer · 07-16-2009, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by MarinePaul

Bivens never felt she had to justify anything

It must be because of the behind the scenes collusion of Bivens and the BOD that Bivens felt she had a free hand to do what she wanted to do and maybe she did, it sure does seem that way.

MP, doesn't it surprise you that the BOD isn't taking any heat for Bivens' actions? The BOD is just as guilty as Bivens is, regarding lost or unsigned events, maybe more so, because supposedly Bivens reported to them.

Blue · 07-16-2009, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by gxer

This still doesn't make sense. If Bivens wanted "Juli" in and Trammell said no, because letting "Juli" in at a late date, breaks written rules, how in the hell could Bivens justify firing Trammell to the BOD?

Why is "Juli" in quotes?

07-15-2009, 07:43 PM	#1
gxer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,049	Bivens analysis. I don't know if this article is fair or not but it doesn't pull any punches. PS: I wish I knew what this was about. Bivens began her tenure as LPGA commissioner in September 2005 and drew immediate criticism when Barb Trammell, a longtime LPGA official, was dismissed the next month for refusing to give a veteran player preferential treatment LPGA Tour \| Relationships doomed Bivens __________________ *My "dream" girl: LPGA seasonal tour stats <=65.50 & >=270*

07-15-2009, 07:56 PM	#2
Blue Forum Moderator Contests: Joint 3rd place overall winner 2009. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,650 Images: 6	Originally Posted by gxer PS: I wish I knew what this was about. Bivens began her tenure as LPGA commissioner in September 2005 and drew immediate criticism when Barb Trammell, a longtime LPGA official, was dismissed the next month for refusing to give a veteran player preferential treatment I think it was the incident in which Juli Inkster missed the application deadline for an event and Barb didn't bend the rules to let her in. I can't remember if Bivens over-rode the decision or not. I bet sag, cleo or LoJo will know the answer.

07-16-2009, 11:19 AM	#4
gxer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,049	Originally Posted by heddwyn Gotta love Laura Davies! Is this what you are referring to? If so, what sort of favors do you think Laura wanted? -------------------------------- Davies, for one, won’t shed a tear over Bivens’ departure. “She never did me any favors,” she said. __________________ *My "dream" girl: LPGA seasonal tour stats <=65.50 & >=270*

07-16-2009, 02:32 PM	#5
LoJo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Golf Course Posts: 2,217 Images: 1	Originally Posted by Blue I think it was the incident in which Juli Inkster missed the application deadline for an event and Barb didn't bend the rules to let her in. I can't remember if Bivens over-rode the decision or not. I bet sag, cleo or LoJo will know the answer. It was allegedly Juli Inkster, as you said. I think the tourney was the Wendy's. And....I don't think Bivens over-rode Trammell's decision. But I think Bivens was p.o'ed at Barb (for following the rules). Initially, I thought it was something to do w/ Beth Daniel, but I recall now that had to do with her being given preferential treatment for missing a one in four rule for some tourney.

07-16-2009, 02:57 PM	#6
gxer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,049	Originally Posted by LoJo It was allegedly Juli Inkster, as you said. I think the tourney was the Wendy's. And....I don't think Bivens over-rode Trammell's decision. But I think Bivens was p.o'ed at Barb (for following the rules). Initially, I thought it was something to do w/ Beth Daniel, but I recall now that had to do with her being given preferential treatment for missing a one in four rule for some tourney. This still doesn't make sense. If Bivens wanted "Juli" in and Trammell said no, because letting "Juli" in at a late date, breaks written rules, how in the hell could Bivens justify firing Trammell to the BOD? __________________ *My "dream" girl: LPGA seasonal tour stats <=65.50 & >=270*

07-15-2009, 08:15 PM	#3
heddwyn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,380	Gotta love Laura Davies!

07-16-2009, 03:22 PM	#7
MarinePaul Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Warren, Ohio Posts: 8,001	Originally Posted by gxer This still doesn't make sense. If Bivens wanted "Juli" in and Trammell said no, because letting "Juli" in at a late date, breaks written rules, how in the hell could Bivens justify firing Trammell to the BOD? Bivens never felt she had to justify anything __________________ Happiness isn't getting what you want, it's wanting what you have.

07-16-2009, 03:30 PM	#8
xman5 Contest Statistician Join Date: May 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 3,902	Originally Posted by gxer This still doesn't make sense. If Bivens wanted "Juli" in and Trammell said no, because letting "Juli" in at a late date, breaks written rules, how in the hell could Bivens justify firing Trammell to the BOD? I don't know anything about this story, but couldn't the commish overrule her on this or any other issue.

07-16-2009, 03:38 PM	#9
gxer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,049	Originally Posted by MarinePaul Bivens never felt she had to justify anything It must be because of the behind the scenes collusion of Bivens and the BOD that Bivens felt she had a free hand to do what she wanted to do and maybe she did, it sure does seem that way. MP, doesn't it surprise you that the BOD isn't taking any heat for Bivens' actions? The BOD is just as guilty as Bivens is, regarding lost or unsigned events, maybe more so, because supposedly Bivens reported to them. __________________ *My "dream" girl: LPGA seasonal tour stats <=65.50 & >=270*

07-16-2009, 03:56 PM	#10
Blue Forum Moderator Contests: Joint 3rd place overall winner 2009. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,650 Images: 6	Originally Posted by gxer This still doesn't make sense. If Bivens wanted "Juli" in and Trammell said no, because letting "Juli" in at a late date, breaks written rules, how in the hell could Bivens justify firing Trammell to the BOD? Why is "Juli" in quotes?

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