Back from vacation

dangerbob · 09-17-2011, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Rusty

I think canadianglen would make a good moderator as well so welcome to the team canadianglen

Congratulations, CanadianGlen...remember who nominated you first!

Just teasing!

Rusty · 09-17-2011, 09:09 PM

Hi Danger
No i didn't receive it. The only one i got through the mail was from NTB the other members donated online. Also Elf said he was going to donate, hopefully the same thing didn't happen to him. Sad to hear they are robbing mail. We are pretty good for a couple of years of hosting now.

dangerbob · 09-17-2011, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Rusty

Hi Danger
No i didn't receive it. The only one i got through the mail was from NTB the other members donated online. Also Elf said he was going to donate, hopefully the same thing didn't happen to him. Sad to hear they are robbing mail. We are pretty good for a couple of years of hosting now.

I was wondering about that 'cause I know if you did, you'd at least acknowledge it. Thanks for letting me know. I still have your address, so rest assure you'll get it. You can apply it for the 3rd year. I'm now back here in the good ole U.S.A.

Mr3putt · 09-17-2011, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by LoJo

Well said, CG.

Rusty.... of course we all realize the good job the moderators, Blue included, have done with trolls and spam to keep this site enjoyable. I don't think a site like this could be run efficiently without moderators' help. We all appreciate it.

Being a moderator doesn't mean one can't have opinions....and sometimes strong opinions....and can't argue certain issues with other posters. All of the moderators at one time or another have expressed some opinions which are in conflict with other posters. No problem.

What is a problem is when a moderator becomes part of the problem instead of seeking a quick solution.

Lojo
Well stated.

Elf · 09-17-2011, 11:37 PM

Rusty: I sinned. I did not sent my contribution. Please tell me again where to send it and I promise I will do it next week (Tomorrow Monday).
Next time you go on vacation, do not tell us until after the fact. Otherwise we may have.....

Blue · 09-18-2011, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Rusty

Blue has asked to stay on as moderator and I have agreed, I've asked that she tones down her posts, remain as neutral as possible, and to leave any heated arguments. I've also asked that any thread that she is involved in the debate that needs moderation be forwarded to one of the other moderators for moderation. This is to insure moderator don't look like they win an argument by deleting posts or closing threads. This might not be the most popular decision but I'll monitor things and see how we go from here.

I assume the "neutral as possible" policy applies to all moderators, not just to me? Rusty, can you please clarify that publicly and also restate what the rules are for moderators? This will go a long way toward not having the kind of disputes that have occurred lately.

LoJo · 09-18-2011, 03:36 PM

Oh for god's sakes!

Wait....you weren't addressing me, you were addressing Rusty. Oh well.

I'll just butt in anyhow. "Neutral as possible" means like how MP and Buzzer do their moderator duties. Capice? Guess not.

Blue · 09-18-2011, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by LoJo

Oh for god's sakes!

Wait....you weren't addressing me, you were addressing Rusty. Oh well.

I'll just butt in anyhow. "Neutral as possible" means like how MP and Buzzer do their moderator duties. Capice? Guess not.

One person's neutrality is another's personal attack (for example: Patriot Golf Day)

With a new moderator on board, publicly posting what the rules are for moderators will help the entire board avoid disputes.

Elf · 09-18-2011, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by LoJo

I'll just butt in anyhow. "Neutral as possible" means like how MP and Buzzer do their moderator duties. Capice? Guess not.

100% in agreement. I have been in heated disputes with Buzzer and more often with Marine Paul. It is more than 5 years since one of them closed a thread where I was actively participating and it got out of hand. I still think it was unfair, but.......anyway, I would define both as model moderators.

They should never "remain as neutral as possible, and leave any heated arguments". Because they post with decorum.

Blue · 09-18-2011, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by canadianglen

Rusty, I concur. Posting the rules or guidelines for moderators for all to see sounds like a good idea to me. Not only will it assist me in my new duties, but it will inform all members of the moderator's powers and limitations.

I'm glad you agree. The more explicit the guidelines can be, the better.

And welcome aboard to moderating, canadianglen. This is something you actively pursued and I think you'll be very good at it.

It's been no secret that you and I have not always gotten along. Let's call a truce and start fresh today.

(couldn't find a handshake icon)

09-17-2011, 08:36 PM	#11
dangerbob Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,528	Originally Posted by Rusty I think canadianglen would make a good moderator as well so welcome to the team canadianglen Congratulations, CanadianGlen...remember who nominated you first! Just teasing! __________________ "On this hapless EARTH There's small SINCERITY of mirth And LAUGHTER oft is but an ART To drown the outcry of the HEART!" Let's eat Grandpa. Let's eat, Grandpa. Commas save lives!

09-17-2011, 09:17 PM	#13
dangerbob Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,528	Originally Posted by Rusty Hi Danger No i didn't receive it. The only one i got through the mail was from NTB the other members donated online. Also Elf said he was going to donate, hopefully the same thing didn't happen to him. Sad to hear they are robbing mail. We are pretty good for a couple of years of hosting now. I was wondering about that 'cause I know if you did, you'd at least acknowledge it. Thanks for letting me know. I still have your address, so rest assure you'll get it. You can apply it for the 3rd year. I'm now back here in the good ole U.S.A. __________________ "On this hapless EARTH There's small SINCERITY of mirth And LAUGHTER oft is but an ART To drown the outcry of the HEART!" Let's eat Grandpa. Let's eat, Grandpa. Commas save lives!

09-17-2011, 10:40 PM	#14
Mr3putt Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2,147	Originally Posted by LoJo Well said, CG. Rusty.... of course we all realize the good job the moderators, Blue included, have done with trolls and spam to keep this site enjoyable. I don't think a site like this could be run efficiently without moderators' help. We all appreciate it. Being a moderator doesn't mean one can't have opinions....and sometimes strong opinions....and can't argue certain issues with other posters. All of the moderators at one time or another have expressed some opinions which are in conflict with other posters. No problem. What is a problem is when a moderator becomes part of the problem instead of seeking a quick solution. Lojo Well stated.

09-17-2011, 11:37 PM	#15
Elf Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mexico City Posts: 3,197	Rusty: I sinned. I did not sent my contribution. Please tell me again where to send it and I promise I will do it next week (Tomorrow Monday). Next time you go on vacation, do not tell us until after the fact. Otherwise we may have..... Last edited by Elf; 09-17-2011 at 11:40 PM.

09-18-2011, 03:18 PM	#16
Blue Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,053	Originally Posted by Rusty Blue has asked to stay on as moderator and I have agreed, I've asked that she tones down her posts, remain as neutral as possible, and to leave any heated arguments. I've also asked that any thread that she is involved in the debate that needs moderation be forwarded to one of the other moderators for moderation. This is to insure moderator don't look like they win an argument by deleting posts or closing threads. This might not be the most popular decision but I'll monitor things and see how we go from here. I assume the "neutral as possible" policy applies to all moderators, not just to me? Rusty, can you please clarify that publicly and also restate what the rules are for moderators? This will go a long way toward not having the kind of disputes that have occurred lately.

09-17-2011, 09:09 PM	#12
Rusty Administrator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northern Territory Posts: 1,035	Hi Danger No i didn't receive it. The only one i got through the mail was from NTB the other members donated online. Also Elf said he was going to donate, hopefully the same thing didn't happen to him. Sad to hear they are robbing mail. We are pretty good for a couple of years of hosting now.

09-18-2011, 03:36 PM	#17
LoJo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Golf Course Posts: 3,390	Oh for god's sakes! Wait....you weren't addressing me, you were addressing Rusty. Oh well. I'll just butt in anyhow. "Neutral as possible" means like how MP and Buzzer do their moderator duties. Capice? Guess not.

09-18-2011, 03:43 PM	#18
Blue Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,053	Originally Posted by LoJo Oh for god's sakes! Wait....you weren't addressing me, you were addressing Rusty. Oh well. I'll just butt in anyhow. "Neutral as possible" means like how MP and Buzzer do their moderator duties. Capice? Guess not. One person's neutrality is another's personal attack (for example: Patriot Golf Day) With a new moderator on board, publicly posting what the rules are for moderators will help the entire board avoid disputes.

09-18-2011, 04:00 PM	#19
Elf Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Mexico City Posts: 3,197	Originally Posted by LoJo I'll just butt in anyhow. "Neutral as possible" means like how MP and Buzzer do their moderator duties. Capice? Guess not. 100% in agreement. I have been in heated disputes with Buzzer and more often with Marine Paul. It is more than 5 years since one of them closed a thread where I was actively participating and it got out of hand. I still think it was unfair, but.......anyway, I would define both as model moderators. They should never "remain as neutral as possible, and leave any heated arguments". Because they post with decorum. Last edited by Elf; 09-18-2011 at 07:51 PM.

09-18-2011, 04:07 PM	#20
Blue Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,053	Originally Posted by canadianglen Rusty, I concur. Posting the rules or guidelines for moderators for all to see sounds like a good idea to me. Not only will it assist me in my new duties, but it will inform all members of the moderator's powers and limitations. I'm glad you agree. The more explicit the guidelines can be, the better. And welcome aboard to moderating, canadianglen. This is something you actively pursued and I think you'll be very good at it. It's been no secret that you and I have not always gotten along. Let's call a truce and start fresh today. (couldn't find a handshake icon)

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