What if there were no golf tours reserved for females?

cleo · 05-22-2006, 06:45 PM

Didn't Marine Paul call Wiefan a "waffler".

05-22-2006, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Scottmlo

It seems she has trouble closing the deal. The pressure gets to her. But with more experience, she will learn how to win and be a great player.

I don't think pressure gets to her any more than it does to anyone else. Pressure gets to everybody sometimes.

Lorena lost in the first playoff hole to two 2nd-year players at the SBS Open this year. Of the three in the playoff, Lorena had the easiest putt, but she's the only one to miss. Then at the KNC, she lost in a playoff to Karrie Webb, despite making a clutch eagle putt to even get into a playoff. People were questioning Lorena's ability to close the deal. Since then, she's had 2 wins and 3 T2s, and 6 consecutive Top 2s.

Did Lorena somehow forget how to win last year and then all of sudden learn how to win in the past 5 weeks? "Learning to win" is the most overused term in golf these days. IMO, all the ladies on the LPGA Tour know how to win. Some just aren't capable skill-wise to do so. Michelle is not one of those lacking in the skill department.

Boola Boss · 05-22-2006, 07:08 PM

I voted for the LPGA, because first of all...........that would be MUCH easier to do.........and second.........it would mean more to her career on the women's tour, to finally get that WIN under her belt.......These two events are right on top of each other......she will play 36 holes in one day, June 5th to try and advance to Winged Foot......and then three days later she will play the first round of the LPGA Championship,,,,,,,,,,How many people could even do that?.......But at 16 years of age, Michelle has lots of strength and stamina.....and she WILL pull it off......and most likely WIN the LPGA title for her first professional win.....

viperr68 · 05-22-2006, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Boola Boss

......she will play 36 holes in one day, June 5th to try and advance to Winged Foot......and then three days later she will play the first round of the LPGA Championship,,,,,,,,,,How many people could even do that?....... .....

How many people, other than Wiesy, would be allowed to do that?

PW · 05-22-2006, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by gxer

How many people, other than Wiesy, would be allowed to do that?

Any of the women entered in the LPGA Championship that could make it past the Open qualifying.

viperr68 · 05-22-2006, 09:59 PM

But there were no other women who made it through local qualifying, so the answer is only Wiesy would be allowed to compete in a "men's" event and a "women's" event the same week, at least for this year.

PW · 05-22-2006, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by gxer

But there were no other women who made it through local qualifying, so the answer is only Wiesy would be allowed to compete in a "men's" event and a "women's" event the same week, at least for this year.

If you say so, I don't get your point. It has nothing to do with being "allowed"

viperr68 · 05-22-2006, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by PW

If you say so, I don't get your point. It has nothing to do with being "allowed"

I don't think that the men who are competing in the US Open sectional with the Big Wiesy are "allowed" to compete in the LPGA Championship are they?

PW · 05-22-2006, 10:46 PM

You want to bar anyone who is a member of any tour other than the PGA?

viperr68 · 05-22-2006, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by PW

You want to bar anyone who is a member of any tour other than the PGA?

I am not sure what you mean but women were not allowed to enter the US Open until the mid 1950's a few years after the LPGA tour was created.

If you want to know why, all you have to know is that in late 1947 Babe Zaharias was making noise about entering the 1948 US Open and the USGA Executive Committe stopped her in her tracks by March of 1948 by stating the following on the application for the US Open.

"Entries are open to men who are professional golfers or amateur golfers with handicaps not exceeding three strokes"

The word "men" was removed in the mid 1950's, I think after Babe had died of cancer, because by that time the USGA was convinced that since there was an LPGA tour and a women's US Open, under control of the USGA, that it was not necessary to have the word "men" in the application as women were not going to enter the US Open anyway. So the USGA removed the word "men" from the application without any fanfare.

So, boys and girls that's your golf history lesson for today.

05-22-2006, 06:45 PM	#11
cleo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PA Posts: 1,494	Didn't Marine Paul call Wiefan a "waffler". __________________ "There's no use arguing with a fool. He only rages and scoffs, and tempers flare."

05-22-2006, 06:45 PM	#12
Guest Posts: n/a	Originally Posted by Scottmlo It seems she has trouble closing the deal. The pressure gets to her. But with more experience, she will learn how to win and be a great player. I don't think pressure gets to her any more than it does to anyone else. Pressure gets to everybody sometimes. Lorena lost in the first playoff hole to two 2nd-year players at the SBS Open this year. Of the three in the playoff, Lorena had the easiest putt, but she's the only one to miss. Then at the KNC, she lost in a playoff to Karrie Webb, despite making a clutch eagle putt to even get into a playoff. People were questioning Lorena's ability to close the deal. Since then, she's had 2 wins and 3 T2s, and 6 consecutive Top 2s. Did Lorena somehow forget how to win last year and then all of sudden learn how to win in the past 5 weeks? "Learning to win" is the most overused term in golf these days. IMO, all the ladies on the LPGA Tour know how to win. Some just aren't capable skill-wise to do so. Michelle is not one of those lacking in the skill department.

05-22-2006, 07:08 PM	#13
Boola Boss Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 970 Images: 4	I voted for the LPGA, because first of all...........that would be MUCH easier to do.........and second.........it would mean more to her career on the women's tour, to finally get that WIN under her belt.......These two events are right on top of each other......she will play 36 holes in one day, June 5th to try and advance to Winged Foot......and then three days later she will play the first round of the LPGA Championship,,,,,,,,,,How many people could even do that?.......But at 16 years of age, Michelle has lots of strength and stamina.....and she WILL pull it off......and most likely WIN the LPGA title for her first professional win..... __________________ A BIG Michelle Wie fan!

05-22-2006, 07:47 PM	#14
viperr68 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cookeville TN Posts: 1	Originally Posted by Boola Boss ......she will play 36 holes in one day, June 5th to try and advance to Winged Foot......and then three days later she will play the first round of the LPGA Championship,,,,,,,,,,How many people could even do that?....... ..... How many people, other than Wiesy, would be allowed to do that?

05-22-2006, 08:06 PM	#15
PW Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 926	Originally Posted by gxer How many people, other than Wiesy, would be allowed to do that? Any of the women entered in the LPGA Championship that could make it past the Open qualifying.

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05-22-2006, 09:59 PM	#16
viperr68 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cookeville TN Posts: 1	But there were no other women who made it through local qualifying, so the answer is only Wiesy would be allowed to compete in a "men's" event and a "women's" event the same week, at least for this year.

05-22-2006, 10:05 PM	#17
PW Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 926	Originally Posted by gxer But there were no other women who made it through local qualifying, so the answer is only Wiesy would be allowed to compete in a "men's" event and a "women's" event the same week, at least for this year. If you say so, I don't get your point. It has nothing to do with being "allowed"

05-22-2006, 10:34 PM	#18
viperr68 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cookeville TN Posts: 1	Originally Posted by PW If you say so, I don't get your point. It has nothing to do with being "allowed" I don't think that the men who are competing in the US Open sectional with the Big Wiesy are "allowed" to compete in the LPGA Championship are they?

05-22-2006, 10:46 PM	#19
PW Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 926	You want to bar anyone who is a member of any tour other than the PGA?

05-22-2006, 11:27 PM	#20
viperr68 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cookeville TN Posts: 1	Originally Posted by PW You want to bar anyone who is a member of any tour other than the PGA? I am not sure what you mean but women were not allowed to enter the US Open until the mid 1950's a few years after the LPGA tour was created. If you want to know why, all you have to know is that in late 1947 Babe Zaharias was making noise about entering the 1948 US Open and the USGA Executive Committe stopped her in her tracks by March of 1948 by stating the following on the application for the US Open. "Entries are open to men who are professional golfers or amateur golfers with handicaps not exceeding three strokes" The word "men" was removed in the mid 1950's, I think after Babe had died of cancer, because by that time the USGA was convinced that since there was an LPGA tour and a women's US Open, under control of the USGA, that it was not necessary to have the word "men" in the application as women were not going to enter the US Open anyway. So the USGA removed the word "men" from the application without any fanfare. So, boys and girls that's your golf history lesson for today.

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