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| Senior Member | Pro Scores 73-66-72-106 in Australian Tournament Professional golfer, Mathew Holten from New Zealand, scored a 106 in the final round of an Australasian Tour event Melbourne, Australia. Scroll down....wayyyy down.... for the score results here: Subaru Victorian Open Here's what happened... The guy SIGNS his card with his back nine score of 37 written into the box for the 18th hole score. So, he signed for a 37 on that hole (he'd actually made a par 4). He was 33 over par on that one hole. He actually "SHOT" a 73, not a 106...but, having signed for the 37 on the 18th hole....he was stuck with the unfortunate result. |
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| Senior Member | Originally Posted by LoJo
I bet he won't sleep well tonight.
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Unbelievable. When I first saw the thread title, I almost felt sorry for him. Now, I just wonder what the hell he was thinking. Obviously, he wasn't.
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| Contest Statistician Join Date: May 2006 Location: NYC
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This makes no sense. He actually should be disqualified for signing an incorrect scorecard. It is important if this is a professional money tournament. He should receive nothing. Just ask Michelle Wie and Sergio Garcia. |
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Don't you think it's about time someone let the suits that run the tours know why they put that little rubber thingy on the end of pencils. Do they really think allowing that man to correct the placement of his score would kick the integrity of golf in the a$$.....or that they were aiding and abetting a criminal act. Why bother to have "walking scorers"....or the guys/gals at each green to call scores ahead so the electronic boards can be brought up to date; Or bother to have the telly mouths and charts tell us all the scores just before a commercial break, of which there are plenty. Handing a player a card with just his final score on it and asking for his signature attesting to the validity of the final score should be enough. That Aussie would have looked at it and would have known, immediately, that something was wrong. Maybe one problem is that too many young golfers turn pro too soon..........like right after "checkbook balancing 101". Most rules were put in place for a purpose. As rules age they should be revamped to fit the times. That rule, as far as I'm concerned, made the Aussie a victim of the stupidity and pomposity of the USGA and R&A. |
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If a player signs for a lower score on a hole, then he is DQed. If the number is higher, then it counts. The player signs the scorecard before the numbers are added up, so he must have been in a hurry to get out of there if he did not check the hole by hole scores carefully.
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Hi ya everyone....here is my question....how come the other players in his group didn't see this error....they had to see it before they signed it....or perhaps they just sign and don't check anyway...I believe it was Jackie Pung that signed for a HIGHER score during the US Women's open...and this caused her NOT to win....as Cougar said....Higher scores are counted and not DQ'd anyway....have a good day...see ya!! I hope Wiesy is reading this article...this hopefully "eliminates" one of her potential controversial moves...gulp!!!....just kidding wiemaniacs....see ya!! |
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Hi ya cougar....shouldn't the players be signing the scorecards AFTER all of the tabulations instead of Before....anyway....have a good day....see ya!!
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| Senior Member | Originally Posted by wiefan
wiefan...Jackie Pung did sign for a wrong score in the US Women's Open. Unfortunately, it was a LOWER score (a 5, not a 6 that she scored), and she was DQ'ed per Rule 6-6.
The "other players" were not responsible for Holten's score in the sense that it was HIS responsibility to check the hole by hole scores and attest that they were accurate. Obviously, he didn't do this as his marker had put the 37 in the wrong box. You can't believe how often this sort of thing happens. I think we've all be incredulous that professionals cannot get this right and are so careless with one of the most basic Rules of Golf. |
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| Senior Member | Originally Posted by wiefan
wiefan.... Players are not responsible for "tabulations" -- total score additions. They ARE responsible for attesting that each hole is recorded accurately...hole by hole. It's pretty simple.
The committee checks the "addition" and there is no penalty for anyone who added their hole by hole scores wrong. I agree w/ Cougar that the player who signed for the "37" obviously didn't carefully go over and read out HOLE BY HOLE each score written on his scorecard, or he surely would have caught the error. |
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