No more Kangol?

Blue · 04-06-2006, 06:30 PM

See the thing is, I'm just trying to help your girl. If Wie fans would post actual facts, not "the way I remember it she beat her mom who rumour has it is was a scratch golfer and she drove the ball 400 yards while she was still in diapers," there would be no grounds for people to argue with you. And I am not the only one.

By the way, I don't have a dictionary definition of "phenom" but I think Michelle qualifies as one, whether she beat all the men in Hawaii or not. Even Wie detractors would probably agree to that. It is not necessary to exagerate things to prove that.

NTB · 04-06-2006, 07:34 PM

Blue for thelast time. This is the only post I have made on this forum
about Wie (read please) I am not a fan of any one player just the lpga
as a whole.
notaxbill

Blue · 04-06-2006, 07:52 PM

Notax, I'm not paying attention to who posts what. Sorry. I'm just responding to what's posted. I honestly didn't think you were a Wie fanatic. I've always thought you've had very reasonable posts.

kaialii · 04-07-2006, 05:48 AM

Here's an article I found about 12 year old Michelle vs 30 year old Del-Marc Fujita at the Manoa Cup:
http://starbulletin.com/2002/06/05/sports/story1.html

According to the article, she beat Sam Oishi 4 and 2 in round 1, I don't know who she beat to get into the 64 player field.

And here's an article about the Manoa Cup:
http://www.808golf.com/insidehawaiig..._sospecial.htm

Blue · 04-07-2006, 06:05 AM

OK, that's more like it.

Now we have some facts. And they are impressive, but not unbelievable.

At age 12 Michelle because the first female and the youngest player ever to win a match at the Hawaiian state amateur tournament.

She was not 10 and she didn't beat all the men and she didn't even win the tournament. But it's still very impressive. And you know what? That's good enough. And she's still a phenon. You don't have to exagerate it into saying she was 10 and won the tournament and beat all the men on every island between California and Japan. You don't. Believe it or not, just stating the facts is much more impressive. The way it was first told just smacks of a overarching hype and then people don't know what to believe and end up doubting everything. I don't think you want that.

04-06-2006, 07:34 PM	#12
NTB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: hot springs village arkansas Posts: 2,288 Images: 4	Blue for thelast time. This is the only post I have made on this forum about Wie (read please) I am not a fan of any one player just the lpga as a whole. notaxbill __________________ God Bless America \"Those people who will not be governed by God will be ruled by tyrants.\" - William Penn

04-07-2006, 05:48 AM	#14
kaialii Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 106 Images: 1	Here's an article I found about 12 year old Michelle vs 30 year old Del-Marc Fujita at the Manoa Cup: http://starbulletin.com/2002/06/05/sports/story1.html According to the article, she beat Sam Oishi 4 and 2 in round 1, I don't know who she beat to get into the 64 player field. And here's an article about the Manoa Cup: http://www.808golf.com/insidehawaiig..._sospecial.htm __________________ kaialii

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04-06-2006, 06:30 PM	#11
Blue Forum Moderator Contests: Joint 3rd place overall winner 2009. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,650 Images: 6	See the thing is, I'm just trying to help your girl. If Wie fans would post actual facts, not "the way I remember it she beat her mom who rumour has it is was a scratch golfer and she drove the ball 400 yards while she was still in diapers," there would be no grounds for people to argue with you. And I am not the only one. By the way, I don't have a dictionary definition of "phenom" but I think Michelle qualifies as one, whether she beat all the men in Hawaii or not. Even Wie detractors would probably agree to that. It is not necessary to exagerate things to prove that.

04-06-2006, 07:52 PM	#13
Blue Forum Moderator Contests: Joint 3rd place overall winner 2009. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,650 Images: 6	Notax, I'm not paying attention to who posts what. Sorry. I'm just responding to what's posted. I honestly didn't think you were a Wie fanatic. I've always thought you've had very reasonable posts.

04-07-2006, 06:05 AM	#15
Blue Forum Moderator Contests: Joint 3rd place overall winner 2009. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,650 Images: 6	OK, that's more like it. Now we have some facts. And they are impressive, but not unbelievable. At age 12 Michelle because the first female and the youngest player ever to win a match at the Hawaiian state amateur tournament. She was not 10 and she didn't beat all the men and she didn't even win the tournament. But it's still very impressive. And you know what? That's good enough. And she's still a phenon. You don't have to exagerate it into saying she was 10 and won the tournament and beat all the men on every island between California and Japan. You don't. Believe it or not, just stating the facts is much more impressive. The way it was first told just smacks of a overarching hype and then people don't know what to believe and end up doubting everything. I don't think you want that.