Book excerpt

greentee · 04-10-2010, 11:22 AM

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Careful guys/girls or you well nitpick this book to death.... I say read the book first before you get {too} critical. 8-)

Putter · 04-10-2010, 02:40 PM

The statement already came from the book, and I'm not being critical, just said that I think her numbers are wrong. I'll probably read the book, but it's not going to change what she said. I don't mind Christina - some times she's over the top, but generally, I think she's kind of fun, in a goofy sort of way. Was just stating that she's wrong about homophobia within the LPGA...and yes, maybe she did just count the "2 dozen" that she's sure of.

dangerbob · 04-10-2010, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Putter

The statement already came from the book, and I'm not being critical, just said that I think her numbers are wrong. I'll probably read the book, but it's not going to change what she said. I don't mind Christina - some times she's over the top, but generally, I think she's kind of fun, in a goofy sort of way. Was just stating that she's wrong about homophobia within the LPGA...and yes, maybe she did just count the "2 dozen" that she's sure of.

It's in her opinion...and if someone expresses his/her opinion there is no right or wrong. She did not say she was accurate...thus "in her count" which can be different in someone else's count.

If you think she is wrong, then lay the number here and we'll have a survey. I hope my Morgan is not one of them, though!

Blue · 04-10-2010, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by dangerbob

It's in her opinion...and if someone expresses his/her opinion there is no right or wrong. She did not say she was accurate...thus "in her count" which can be different in someone else's count.

If you think she is wrong, then lay the number here and we'll have a survey. I hope my Morgan is not one of them, though!

Good point. It is stated as her opinion. Your Morgan is not gay, as far as I know. That's the good news for you. The bad news for you is she's probably not going to be dating you soon.

Blue · 04-10-2010, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by MarinePaul

What does it matter how many players are lesbian? How many PGA players are gay? There have to be some, and the percentage probably wouldn't be much different that the percentage of the general public. it's really not an issue.

It kind of does matter when 10 percent (or 20 percent or whatever) of the Tour is gay and every single one of them feels they have to keep that information private for fear of losing fans or sponsors.

It'll be a great day when it really does not matter. When the gay players can be open about their lives and partners/spouses, just like the straight players are. When they can win a tournament and publicly thank their girlfriend or wife (gay marriage now being legal in a half dozen US states) without creating cries of horror. When the health plan available to LPGA members covers partners of the gay players like it does the spouses of the straight players. When parents of young girl golfers are not afraid to let their daughters join the LPGA in case they might somehow catch lesbianism. When straight players, the golf media, sponsors, and others in the golf world don't have to pretend that there are hardly any gay players and that all is fine and dandy.

Until then, my response to Christina's opinion that there is no raging homophobia on the LPGA Tour is, are you kidding!?

Putter · 04-10-2010, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by dangerbob

It's in her opinion...and if someone expresses his/her opinion there is no right or wrong. She did not say she was accurate...thus "in her count" which can be different in someone else's count.

OK, so "in my count" means the same thing as "in my opinion"?? She didn't say "in my opinion" she just counted how many lesbians SHE knew about, it's not really an opinion.

You're safe Danger, "your" Morgan is not gay - sure hope she doesn't "catch" it though!

MarinePaul · 04-10-2010, 07:13 PM

Blue, I didn't mean for this to get political so you could hop up on your soap box about gay marriage. Let me put it this way. If anyone plays great golf, regardless of their sexual preference, I'm a fan.That's MY opinion. I could give a rat's ass whether a player is gay, straight, or whatever. Just provide good golf that I can be entertained by, and I'm a happy camper.

dangerbob · 04-10-2010, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Putter

OK, so "in my count" means the same thing as "in my opinion"?? She didn't say "in my opinion" she just counted how many lesbians SHE knew about, it's not really an opinion.

You're safe Danger, "your" Morgan is not gay - sure hope she doesn't "catch" it though!

I sure hope so. When I start dating her, I don't want to be her Dildo!

LoJo · 04-10-2010, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by dangerbob

I sure hope so. When I start dating her, I don't want to be her Dildo!

Sheesh.

dangerbob · 04-10-2010, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by MarinePaul

I could give a rat's ass whether a player is gay, straight, or whatever. Just provide good golf that I can be entertained by, and I'm a happy camper.

That's right MP...I agree with you. As long as we are not screwing them, huh!

Just curious...do you think Tiger is gay?

04-10-2010, 11:22 AM	#21
greentee Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,484 Images: 4	. Careful guys/girls or you well nitpick this book to death.... I say read the book first before you get {too} critical. 8-) __________________ ... I am not a tree, I am a tee... hit me, ah... wait a minute...

04-10-2010, 02:40 PM	#22
Putter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,296 Images: 26	The statement already came from the book, and I'm not being critical, just said that I think her numbers are wrong. I'll probably read the book, but it's not going to change what she said. I don't mind Christina - some times she's over the top, but generally, I think she's kind of fun, in a goofy sort of way. Was just stating that she's wrong about homophobia within the LPGA...and yes, maybe she did just count the "2 dozen" that she's sure of. __________________ Putter

04-10-2010, 03:47 PM	#23
dangerbob Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,871	Originally Posted by Putter The statement already came from the book, and I'm not being critical, just said that I think her numbers are wrong. I'll probably read the book, but it's not going to change what she said. I don't mind Christina - some times she's over the top, but generally, I think she's kind of fun, in a goofy sort of way. Was just stating that she's wrong about homophobia within the LPGA...and yes, maybe she did just count the "2 dozen" that she's sure of. It's in her opinion...and if someone expresses his/her opinion there is no right or wrong. She did not say she was accurate...thus "in her count" which can be different in someone else's count. If you think she is wrong, then lay the number here and we'll have a survey. I hope my Morgan is not one of them, though! __________________ "On this hapless EARTH There's small SINCERITY of mirth And LAUGHTER oft is but an ART To drown the outcry of the HEART!"

04-10-2010, 05:42 PM	#24
Blue Forum Moderator Contests: Joint 3rd place overall winner 2009. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,650 Images: 6	Originally Posted by dangerbob It's in her opinion...and if someone expresses his/her opinion there is no right or wrong. She did not say she was accurate...thus "in her count" which can be different in someone else's count. If you think she is wrong, then lay the number here and we'll have a survey. I hope my Morgan is not one of them, though! Good point. It is stated as her opinion. Your Morgan is not gay, as far as I know. That's the good news for you. The bad news for you is she's probably not going to be dating you soon.

04-10-2010, 06:01 PM	#25
Blue Forum Moderator Contests: Joint 3rd place overall winner 2009. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,650 Images: 6	Originally Posted by MarinePaul What does it matter how many players are lesbian? How many PGA players are gay? There have to be some, and the percentage probably wouldn't be much different that the percentage of the general public. it's really not an issue. It kind of does matter when 10 percent (or 20 percent or whatever) of the Tour is gay and every single one of them feels they have to keep that information private for fear of losing fans or sponsors. It'll be a great day when it really does not matter. When the gay players can be open about their lives and partners/spouses, just like the straight players are. When they can win a tournament and publicly thank their girlfriend or wife (gay marriage now being legal in a half dozen US states) without creating cries of horror. When the health plan available to LPGA members covers partners of the gay players like it does the spouses of the straight players. When parents of young girl golfers are not afraid to let their daughters join the LPGA in case they might somehow catch lesbianism. When straight players, the golf media, sponsors, and others in the golf world don't have to pretend that there are hardly any gay players and that all is fine and dandy. Until then, my response to Christina's opinion that there is no raging homophobia on the LPGA Tour is, are you kidding!?

04-10-2010, 06:14 PM	#26
Putter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,296 Images: 26	Originally Posted by dangerbob It's in her opinion...and if someone expresses his/her opinion there is no right or wrong. She did not say she was accurate...thus "in her count" which can be different in someone else's count. OK, so "in my count" means the same thing as "in my opinion"?? She didn't say "in my opinion" she just counted how many lesbians SHE knew about, it's not really an opinion. You're safe Danger, "your" Morgan is not gay - sure hope she doesn't "catch" it though! __________________ Putter

04-10-2010, 07:13 PM	#27
MarinePaul Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Warren, Ohio Posts: 8,001	Blue, I didn't mean for this to get political so you could hop up on your soap box about gay marriage. Let me put it this way. If anyone plays great golf, regardless of their sexual preference, I'm a fan.That's MY opinion. I could give a rat's ass whether a player is gay, straight, or whatever. Just provide good golf that I can be entertained by, and I'm a happy camper. __________________ Happiness isn't getting what you want, it's wanting what you have.

04-10-2010, 07:32 PM	#28
dangerbob Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,871	Originally Posted by Putter OK, so "in my count" means the same thing as "in my opinion"?? She didn't say "in my opinion" she just counted how many lesbians SHE knew about, it's not really an opinion. You're safe Danger, "your" Morgan is not gay - sure hope she doesn't "catch" it though! I sure hope so. When I start dating her, I don't want to be her Dildo! __________________ "On this hapless EARTH There's small SINCERITY of mirth And LAUGHTER oft is but an ART To drown the outcry of the HEART!"

04-10-2010, 07:44 PM	#29
LoJo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Golf Course Posts: 2,217 Images: 1	Originally Posted by dangerbob I sure hope so. When I start dating her, I don't want to be her Dildo! Sheesh.

04-10-2010, 07:46 PM	#30
dangerbob Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,871	Originally Posted by MarinePaul I could give a rat's ass whether a player is gay, straight, or whatever. Just provide good golf that I can be entertained by, and I'm a happy camper. That's right MP...I agree with you. As long as we are not screwing them, huh! Just curious...do you think Tiger is gay? __________________ "On this hapless EARTH There's small SINCERITY of mirth And LAUGHTER oft is but an ART To drown the outcry of the HEART!"

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