Annika, Vice Captain of European Solheim team

MarinePaul · 05-19-2010, 05:13 PM

Lojo, what are the requirements for the Curtis Cup? How is nationality determined for that?

xman5 · 05-19-2010, 05:32 PM

USGA announces 2010 USA Curtis Cup Team
Three United States Golf Association champions headline the eight-woman amateur team selected by the Association to represent the United States of America at the 2010 Curtis Cup Match, which will be played June 11-13 at Essex County Club in Manchester-by-the-Sea, Mass.

Jennifer Song, 20, of Ann Arbor, Mich., became the second female in history to win two USGA titles in the same year when she claimed the U.S. Women’s Amateur and U.S. Women’s Amateur Public Links in 2009. Alexis Thompson, 15, of Coral Springs, Fla., won the 2008 U.S. Girls’ Junior and is the youngest player in history to qualify for the U.S. Women’s Open, which she did in 2007 at age 12.

Kimberly Kim, 18, of Pahoa, Hawaii, who won the 2006 U.S. Women’s Amateur at age 14 to become the youngest winner in the championship’s history, was named to her second consecutive Curtis Cup Team. She is the only player on the 2010 USA Team to have played in the Match previously.

That trio will be joined by Cydney Clanton, 20, of Concord, N.C.; Jennifer Johnson, 18, of La Quinta, Calif.; Stephanie Kono, 20, of Honolulu, Hawaii; Jessica Korda, 17, of Bradenton, Fla.; and Tiffany Lua, 19, of Rowland Heights, Calif.

The alternates for the 2010 USA Team, in order of ranking, are: Candace Schepperle, 21, of Birmingham, Ala.; and Sydnee Michaels, 21, of Temecula, Calif.

The Curtis Cup Match, contested biennially, features eight female amateurs from Great Britain and Ireland and eight players who represent the USA. The Match consists of three foursomes (alternate-shot) and three four-ball (better-ball) matches on the first two days. On the final day, all eight players from each side play in singles matches.

The 2010 USA Team will be captained by Noreen Mohler of Bethlehem, Pa., who was a member of the USA’s victorious 1978 Curtis Cup Team.

The USA Team has won the last six Curtis Cup Matches and leads the series, which began in 1932, by a 26-6-3 margin.

LoJo · 05-19-2010, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by MarinePaul

Lojo, what are the requirements for the Curtis Cup? How is nationality determined for that?

MP, Curtis Cup players must be CITIZENS of the country they represent. CITIZENS, not natural born citizens, which is why Walshe played for the US...she's a naturalized American Citizen.

From the USGA site:

The Curtis Cup Match is played by women amateur golfers, one team from the United States and one team from England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. The teams consist of not more than eight players and a captain.

The USA team is selected by the USGA Women's Committee. The Ladies Golf Union selects the team from Great Britain & Ireland. Players must be citizens of the country they represent.

Blue · 05-19-2010, 06:08 PM

Is anyone else here going to the Curtis Cup?

MarinePaul · 05-19-2010, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by LoJo

MP, Curtis Cup players must be CITIZENS of the country they represent. CITIZENS, not natural born citizens, which is why Walshe played for the US...she's a naturalized American Citizen.

From the USGA site:
The Curtis Cup Match is played by women amateur golfers, one team from the United States and one team from England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. The teams consist of not more than eight players and a captain.

The USA team is selected by the USGA Women's Committee. The Ladies Golf Union selects the team from Great Britain & Ireland. Players must be citizens of the country they represent.

Thanks, Lojo. I never knew the requirements were different. That does make the Walshe situation more interesting. Do you know if that's happened before, or will she be the first to play on a different Curtis and Solheim team, assuming she makes the European team?

Blue · 05-19-2010, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by LoJo

Oh please....let's not bring the ignorance of the "Birther" conspiracy into golf!

There is an interesting twist in this Solheim Cup though.

As has been pointed out...ad nauseum...eligibility is based on country of birth, not on citizenship. Alison Walshe, who is a naturalized American citizen and who has lived in the US since being a small child, was born in Ireland, has made herself eligible for the 2011 Solheim team playing for Europe.

She has joined the LET (as well as her being an LPGA member), and is hoping to make the Euro team.

Of course, the next Solheim is being held in Ireland and it would be a huge boost to have her on the team as it doesn't appear there would be any other Irish players who are 'on the horizon' to make it. Alison has many relatives in Ireland, and her family spent many summers there (they lived in Boston).

Apparently, her eligibility came to light when she played for the USA against Great Britain & Ireland in the 2008 CURTIS CUP matches! Haha

Anyhow, this is the first time I can recall an "American" golfer playing for the Euros.

Would be interesting, but it appears she has a long way to go to make the team:

The Solheim Cup - Team Standings

Saint-Just X · 05-19-2010, 06:50 PM

The next Irish player on our team,at the Solheim,will be Leona Maguire in 2015.

Book it...

Pax Vobiscum
Saint-Just X

LoJo · 05-19-2010, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by MarinePaul

Thanks, Lojo. I never knew the requirements were different. That does make the Walshe situation more interesting. Do you know if that's happened before, or will she be the first to play on a different Curtis and Solheim team, assuming she makes the European team?

You know, I was curious about that too after I'd read this story about Walshe. The reason I was curious is because there have been lots of Korean or Asian names on the US Curtis Cup teams in the recent past. Were they natural born citizens or naturalized American citizens? I didn't go back any further than the last CCup, but there was one other member of the 2008 team Walshe was on.... Jenny Lee was born in Seoul, S. Korea.

On this year's team, it appears everyone was born in the USA, as the song goes.

I have doubts there is this issue w/ the European Team. Like someone born in Asia who becomes a British citizen, though that could happen in the future I suppose.

LoJo · 05-19-2010, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Blue

Would be interesting, but it appears she has a long way to go to make the team:

The Solheim Cup - Team Standings

Oh...no DOUBT that Walshe being on the Euro Solheim team is a huge long shot. There are other Irish players ahead of her, which would take out that aspect too.

Additionally, there are other "new" Euro players who are currently way down the list who might likely be highly considered as Capt's picks, if the Capt picked a rookie ..... example.... Spain's Azahara Munoz!

I posted Alison's "story" only because someone brought up....ONCE AGAIN!!....the issue of nationality/birth eligibility.

LoJo · 05-19-2010, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by Saint-Just X

The next Irish player on our team,at the Solheim,will be Leona Maguire in 2015.

Probably true. What about the other Maguire twin?

05-19-2010, 05:13 PM	#21
MarinePaul Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Warren, Ohio Posts: 8,003	Lojo, what are the requirements for the Curtis Cup? How is nationality determined for that? __________________ Happiness isn't getting what you want, it's wanting what you have.

05-19-2010, 05:32 PM	#22
xman5 Contest Statistician Join Date: May 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 3,904	USGA announces 2010 USA Curtis Cup Team Three United States Golf Association champions headline the eight-woman amateur team selected by the Association to represent the United States of America at the 2010 Curtis Cup Match, which will be played June 11-13 at Essex County Club in Manchester-by-the-Sea, Mass. Jennifer Song, 20, of Ann Arbor, Mich., became the second female in history to win two USGA titles in the same year when she claimed the U.S. Women’s Amateur and U.S. Women’s Amateur Public Links in 2009. Alexis Thompson, 15, of Coral Springs, Fla., won the 2008 U.S. Girls’ Junior and is the youngest player in history to qualify for the U.S. Women’s Open, which she did in 2007 at age 12. Kimberly Kim, 18, of Pahoa, Hawaii, who won the 2006 U.S. Women’s Amateur at age 14 to become the youngest winner in the championship’s history, was named to her second consecutive Curtis Cup Team. She is the only player on the 2010 USA Team to have played in the Match previously. That trio will be joined by Cydney Clanton, 20, of Concord, N.C.; Jennifer Johnson, 18, of La Quinta, Calif.; Stephanie Kono, 20, of Honolulu, Hawaii; Jessica Korda, 17, of Bradenton, Fla.; and Tiffany Lua, 19, of Rowland Heights, Calif. The alternates for the 2010 USA Team, in order of ranking, are: Candace Schepperle, 21, of Birmingham, Ala.; and Sydnee Michaels, 21, of Temecula, Calif. The Curtis Cup Match, contested biennially, features eight female amateurs from Great Britain and Ireland and eight players who represent the USA. The Match consists of three foursomes (alternate-shot) and three four-ball (better-ball) matches on the first two days. On the final day, all eight players from each side play in singles matches. The 2010 USA Team will be captained by Noreen Mohler of Bethlehem, Pa., who was a member of the USA’s victorious 1978 Curtis Cup Team. The USA Team has won the last six Curtis Cup Matches and leads the series, which began in 1932, by a 26-6-3 margin. Last edited by xman5; 05-19-2010 at 05:36 PM.

05-19-2010, 05:41 PM	#23
LoJo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Golf Course Posts: 2,217 Images: 1	Originally Posted by MarinePaul Lojo, what are the requirements for the Curtis Cup? How is nationality determined for that? MP, Curtis Cup players must be CITIZENS of the country they represent. CITIZENS, not natural born citizens, which is why Walshe played for the US...she's a naturalized American Citizen. From the USGA site: The Curtis Cup Match is played by women amateur golfers, one team from the United States and one team from England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. The teams consist of not more than eight players and a captain. The USA team is selected by the USGA Women's Committee. The Ladies Golf Union selects the team from Great Britain & Ireland. Players must be citizens of the country they represent.

05-19-2010, 06:22 PM	#25
MarinePaul Moderator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Warren, Ohio Posts: 8,003	Originally Posted by LoJo MP, Curtis Cup players must be CITIZENS of the country they represent. CITIZENS, not natural born citizens, which is why Walshe played for the US...she's a naturalized American Citizen. From the USGA site: The Curtis Cup Match is played by women amateur golfers, one team from the United States and one team from England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. The teams consist of not more than eight players and a captain. The USA team is selected by the USGA Women's Committee. The Ladies Golf Union selects the team from Great Britain & Ireland. Players must be citizens of the country they represent. Thanks, Lojo. I never knew the requirements were different. That does make the Walshe situation more interesting. Do you know if that's happened before, or will she be the first to play on a different Curtis and Solheim team, assuming she makes the European team? __________________ Happiness isn't getting what you want, it's wanting what you have.

05-19-2010, 06:34 PM	#26
Blue Forum Moderator Contests: Joint 3rd place overall winner 2009. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,650 Images: 6	Originally Posted by LoJo Oh please....let's not bring the ignorance of the "Birther" conspiracy into golf! There is an interesting twist in this Solheim Cup though. As has been pointed out...ad nauseum...eligibility is based on country of birth, not on citizenship. Alison Walshe, who is a naturalized American citizen and who has lived in the US since being a small child, was born in Ireland, has made herself eligible for the 2011 Solheim team playing for Europe. She has joined the LET (as well as her being an LPGA member), and is hoping to make the Euro team. Of course, the next Solheim is being held in Ireland and it would be a huge boost to have her on the team as it doesn't appear there would be any other Irish players who are 'on the horizon' to make it. Alison has many relatives in Ireland, and her family spent many summers there (they lived in Boston). Apparently, her eligibility came to light when she played for the USA against Great Britain & Ireland in the 2008 CURTIS CUP matches! Haha Anyhow, this is the first time I can recall an "American" golfer playing for the Euros. Would be interesting, but it appears she has a long way to go to make the team: The Solheim Cup - Team Standings

05-19-2010, 06:08 PM	#24
Blue Forum Moderator Contests: Joint 3rd place overall winner 2009. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,650 Images: 6	Is anyone else here going to the Curtis Cup?

05-19-2010, 06:50 PM	#27
Saint-Just X Senior Member Contests: Joint 3nd place overall winner 2010 Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,676	The next Irish player on our team,at the Solheim,will be Leona Maguire in 2015. Book it... Pax Vobiscum Saint-Just X __________________ I have sent the most relevant posts you made about Paula Creamer to her lawyers. Hope they take action against your statements - Elf

05-19-2010, 08:07 PM	#28
LoJo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Golf Course Posts: 2,217 Images: 1	Originally Posted by MarinePaul Thanks, Lojo. I never knew the requirements were different. That does make the Walshe situation more interesting. Do you know if that's happened before, or will she be the first to play on a different Curtis and Solheim team, assuming she makes the European team? You know, I was curious about that too after I'd read this story about Walshe. The reason I was curious is because there have been lots of Korean or Asian names on the US Curtis Cup teams in the recent past. Were they natural born citizens or naturalized American citizens? I didn't go back any further than the last CCup, but there was one other member of the 2008 team Walshe was on.... Jenny Lee was born in Seoul, S. Korea. On this year's team, it appears everyone was born in the USA, as the song goes. I have doubts there is this issue w/ the European Team. Like someone born in Asia who becomes a British citizen, though that could happen in the future I suppose.

05-19-2010, 08:19 PM	#29
LoJo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Golf Course Posts: 2,217 Images: 1	Originally Posted by Blue Would be interesting, but it appears she has a long way to go to make the team: The Solheim Cup - Team Standings Oh...no DOUBT that Walshe being on the Euro Solheim team is a huge long shot. There are other Irish players ahead of her, which would take out that aspect too. Additionally, there are other "new" Euro players who are currently way down the list who might likely be highly considered as Capt's picks, if the Capt picked a rookie ..... example.... Spain's Azahara Munoz! I posted Alison's "story" only because someone brought up....ONCE AGAIN!!....the issue of nationality/birth eligibility.

05-19-2010, 08:33 PM	#30
LoJo Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Golf Course Posts: 2,217 Images: 1	Originally Posted by Saint-Just X The next Irish player on our team,at the Solheim,will be Leona Maguire in 2015. Probably true. What about the other Maguire twin?

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