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Old 05-29-2012, 06:31 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Elf View Post
BKB wrote "Venus has not had a significant finish in over a year and has been dealing with Sjodren's Syndrome"

I did not know Venus had Sjodren's Syndrome, not even knew that illness existed . Hope she is getting a successfully treatment, now that the Doctors know about it. Hope she recovers and gets back to her normal game even though she is getting up in years for a tennis player.
sorry...I messed up the spelling...typing too fast and not checking...that should be Sjogren's Syndrome...an autoimmune disease that attacks the glands that produce tears and saliva...among other symptoms...Venus was noticing last year that she was become unusually tired and had dryness...
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Originally Posted by bangkokbobby View Post
sorry...I messed up the spelling...typing too fast and not checking...that should be Sjogren's Syndrome...an autoimmune disease that attacks the glands that produce tears and saliva...among other symptoms...Venus was noticing last year that she was become unusually tired and had dryness...
I am a hopeless hypochondriac . I read about the symptoms, and I have them. The only thing that is stopping me from running (walking, crawling without saliva and tears) to the doctor is that it seems the problem is mostly with females. Any way I wish Venus the best.

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That's some impressive ink Bethanie Mattek-Sands is sporting.

She's quite a character,too,isn't she ?...

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Yes...Bethanie is a character...on the LPGA, are any of the ladies into tats? I mean in a big way, not just one or two.

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Virginie Razzano


And with all due respect to Virginie Razzano, had Serena played the first two days, the American women would be 11-0.

That’s what I wrote in my post about the American women sprinting out to a 10-0 record in the first round of Roland Garros 2012. Apparently, I did not give Virginie Razzano quite the respect she was due! In perhaps the biggest upset in recent years on the WTA, Razzano earned what she called the greatest win of her career defeating the consensus tournament favorite Serena Williams, 4-6 7-6 (5) 6-3. Consider that Serena was 17-0 on clay this season coming into Roland Garros, including two almost embarrassingly easy wins over Victoria Azarenka and Maria Sharapova, the top 2 ranked players in the world. Consider that Serena has 13 Major victories in singles and 41 titles overall in singles while Virginie has 2 WTA victories, both coming a week apart in 2007. Consider that Serena came in as the tournament favorite while Razzano was ranked outside the top 100, at 111th. Consider that Serena had NEVER EVER lost in the first round of a Major before and I submit that I can’t think of an upset this big on the WTA in recent years. This was Douglas over Tyson.

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Down a set and down 1-5 in the second set tiebreak, I was ready to call it a valiant, but losing, effort by Razzano. But the Frenchwoman rose to the occassion and won the tiebreak by stringing together 6 straight points. And she wasn’t done there. In front of her home crowd she blitzed out to a 5-0 lead in the third set. However, Serena would not meekly bow out. She won the next three games to put the pressure on Razzano to close it out at 5-3. Then came the game of tournament so far as Serena fought off 7 match points against her. For those who have watched Serena over the years, you had that feeling she was going to find a way to break Razzano again and somehow win the match. But Virginie would not let go and on the eighth match point Serena sailed a backhand just long and the Frenchwoman had the win of her life.





Maria Sharapova


On the opposite side of the spectrum from Serena, Maria Sharapova absolutely crushed Alexandra Cadantu, 6-0 6-0, the dreaded double bagel. With Serena out of Roland Garros, the path to a career Grand Slam just became a bit easier for Masha. But that’s all relative. Easier, yes…but not easy. There are still a lot of players in the tournament capable of beating Sharapova, particularly Caroline Wozniacki, Petra Kvitova, Li Na and Victoria Azarenka. And as we were reminded with Razzano’s upset of Serena. It’s sports. Anything can happen. Anybody can win on a given day.



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Maria Kirilenko


Singles - First Round
(2) Maria Sharapova (RUS) d. Alexandra Cadantu (ROU) 60 60
(4) Petra Kvitova (CZE) d. (WC) Ashleigh Barty (AUS) 61 62
Virginie Razzano (FRA) d. (5) Serena Williams (USA) 46 76(5) 63
(9) Caroline Wozniacki (DEN) d. Eleni Daniilidou (GRE) 60 61
(14) Francesca Schiavone (ITA) d. Kimiko Date-Krumm (JPN) 63 61
(16) Maria Kirilenko (RUS) d. (WC) Victoria Larrière (FRA) 61 62
(22) Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova (RUS) d. Greta Arn (HUN) 64 64
(23) Kaia Kanepi (EST) d. Alexandra Panova (RUS) 63 63
(25) Julia Goerges (GER) d. Lucie Hradecka (CZE) 76(1) 64
(28) Peng Shuai (CHN) d. Tamira Paszek (AUT) 64 63
Tsvetana Pironkova (BUL) d. Yanina Wickmayer (BEL) 36 60 63
Klara Zakopalova (CZE) d. Lesia Tsurenko (UKR) 62 61
Irina-Camelia Begu (ROU) d. (WC) Aravane Rezai (FRA) 75 57 62
Jarmila Gajdosova (AUS) d. Magdalena Rybarikova (SVK) 63 41 ret. (lumbar spine injury)
Urszula Radwanska (POL) d. Pauline Parmentier (FRA) 64 63
Ayumi Morita (JPN) d. Polona Hercog (SLO) 36 64 63
Arantxa Rus (NED) d. Jamie Hampton (USA) 64 43 ret. (right low back injury)
Lourdes Domínguez Lino (ESP) d. Marina Erakovic (NZL) 75 75
Melinda Czink (HUN) d. Anne Keothavong (GBR) 61 62
(Q) Heather Watson (GBR) d. Elena Vesnina (RUS) 62 64
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Old 05-30-2012, 12:59 AM   #14
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I saw some of the match when Serena was choking so bad.

When is Ana expected to play next....day & time?
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:30 AM   #15
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I saw some of the match when Serena was choking so bad.

When is Ana expected to play next....day & time?
sorry...Ana has already played...and WON! When thinking about who benefits from Serena losing beyond Vika, Masha and Li Na...whom I now consider the co-favorites...Caroline Wozniacki and Ana Ivanovic come to mind...Caro especially as she was in Serena's section...Wozniacki should at least make it to a quarterfinal with Masha...on clay where Caro is more of a grinder than Masha I give Wozniacki a shot at the upset...still think Masha wins but wouldn't be shocked if she doesn't...Ana is on the opposite side of the draw...as her good friend and countryman Novak Djokovic says it's all mental with Ana...she has the game to beat anybody but the self doubt to lose to anybody...I can't count how many times I have seen Ana outplaying a top ranked player and then have a few points not go her way and she crumbles mentally...but despite letting Sharapova off the hook in Rome Ana has been playing much better and is a former Roland Garros champion...if she can look at what Razzano did to Serena and just believe she has the game to do the same to Vika and Masha...well, you never know...I know organizers would love an Ivanovic-Sharapova or an Ivanovic-Li final...
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Old 05-30-2012, 07:51 PM   #16
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It's a shock that both Serena and Venus are out of French Open after the second round even though neither are clay court specialist and French Open is the major that both of them haven't done as well as the other 3 majors.

I don't know how much age has to do with the outcome but the fact that Serena is 30 and Venus 31 don't help.

Azarenka, Stosur, Radwanska (who beat Venus), Kerber, Li, Kvitova, Wozniacki and Sharapova are now the favorites to win 2012 French Open. Sharapova has replaced Serena as the betting odds-on favorite but she still needs to win 6 matches if she is going to be crowned the champion.

It should be an interesting fortnight for things to evolve.
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:00 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by 18majors View Post
It's a shock that both Serena and Venus are out of French Open after the second round even though neither are clay court specialist and French Open is the major that both of them haven't done as well as the other 3 majors.

I don't know how much age has to do with the outcome but the fact that Serena is 30 and Venus 31 don't help.

Azarenka, Stosur, Radwanska (who beat Venus), Kerber, Li, Kvitova, Wozniacki and Sharapova are now the favorites to win 2012 French Open. Sharapova has replaced Serena as the betting odds-on favorite but she still needs to win 6 matches if she is going to be crowned the champion.

It should be an interesting fortnight for things to evolve.
Yes...a surprise that both are out but to me only because of Serena. At this point of Venus' career Aga is simply a better player. She beat Venus the last time they played and I expected her to do so again...especially on clay where Aga's style is better suited. As great as Aga has been in 2012...if it weren't for Vika getting in her way she'd probably have the most titles...I think if she can't win Roland Garros on clay then she won't win any of the other Majors unless there are a slew of upsets or injuries...but as for Venus...honestly, I cannot see her winning another Major unless everything breaks her way at Wimbledon...

some have brought up that Serena's perfect clay record might have been misleading...they point out that Family Circle is on green clay...the "American Clay"...much different that the Terre battue at Roland Garros...also...even though the blue clay at Madrid was originally red clay...after the processing it went through it was very slippery and favored big hitters who like to end points quickly and not grinders...which is why grinding defensive experts like Rafa and Nole were upset there...plus Madrid was never seen as a precursor for how Roland Garros would turn out because it's at altitude and plays like a hardcourt in some ways...Rome was always a better litmus test...Serena pulled out before finishing in Rome...

Those are valid points...but all the experts weren't saying all that going in...I honestly think it's just that Serena is older...doesn't play enough to keep a consistent rhythm and isn't in as good a shape as she has been...

...although I too thought she was the favorite I have posted before that I think we will see more and more streaky play from Serena and upset losses...that as she gets older she won't be able to pick and choose tournaments to play and then think she can just show up at a Major and just win it...she has played the last four Majors and hasn't won...when she is on she is the best out there right now...I would make her the favorite on grass at Wimbledon right now...but as time goes on I expect a drop in her level of play over the next 12 months...

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I feel like things are starting to click. Today was a very pleasing victory and I’m feeling good about my chances of going further in this tournament. – Ana Ivanovic

Ana Ivanovic has every right to feel pleased by her victory over Shahar Peer in the 2nd round of Roland Garros 2012. With the ups and downs Ana has been through in recent years, a second round match against a solid player like Shahar would have been a match Ana inexplicably would lose. That she was able to get through with no problems, 6-2 6-2, is a very good sign. Sometimes it’s not only about big marquee wins. Sometimes showing you can get through the players you’re suppose to beat with relative ease is just as important.



Agnieszka Radwanska


A day after sister Serena was upset by Virgnie Razzano, Venus Williams was shown the door by Agnieszka Radwanska. But this was a completely different circumstance. Aga is the world #3. She might be the best player of 2012 were it not for Victoria Azarenka. At this point in Venus’ career, Aga is just better than her. Radwanska beat Venus on hardcourt in Miami this year and now again on clay. Like Caroline Wozniacki, Aga doesn’t beat herself. She makes you play shot after shot after shot. If you’re not ready to go deep into rallies…and Venus isn’t at the moment…then you will find yourself at the wrong end of a 6-2 6-3 loss to Aga.

Ana


Vika


Samantha Stosur


Singles - Second Round
(1) Victoria Azarenka (BLR) d. (Q) Dinah Pfizenmaier (GER) 61 61
(3) Agnieszka Radwanska (POL) d. Venus Williams (USA) 62 63
(6) Samantha Stosur (AUS) d. Irina Falconi (USA) 61 64
Petra Martic (CRO) d. (8) Marion Bartoli (FRA) 62 36 63
(13) Ana Ivanovic (SRB) d. Shahar Peer (ISR) 62 62
(15) Dominika Cibulkova (SVK) d. Vania King (USA) 60 62
(18) Flavia Pennetta (ITA) d. (Q) Alexa Glatch (USA) 63 61
María José Martínez Sánchez (ESP) d. (20) Lucie Safarova (CZE) 64 75
(21) Sara Errani (ITA) d. (WC) Melanie Oudin (USA) 62 63
Mathilde Johansson (FRA) d. (24) Petra Cetkovska (CZE) 76(1) 62
(26) Svetlana Kuznetsova (RUS) d. (Q) Chan Yung-Jan (TPE) 64 76(4)
(27) Nadia Petrova (RUS) d. Chanelle Scheepers (RSA) 63 63
(29) Anabel Medina Garrigues (ESP) d. (WC) Irena Pavlovic (FRA) 63 62
Aleksandra Wozniak (CAN) d. (31) Zheng Jie (CHN) 62 64
Sloane Stephens (USA) d. Bethanie Mattek-Sands (USA) 61 61
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:14 AM   #19
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Go Ana Go!
You gotta figure Stosur is on roids not detected in testing.....look at her pic compared to others
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:20 AM   #20
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Go Ana Go!
You gotta figure Stosur is on roids not detected in testing.....look at her pic compared to others
...I want to believe that Samantha is just one of those folks with good genetics when it comes to muscularity...but...well...
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