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Old 03-31-2012, 02:39 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Saint-Just X View Post
Why not make the holes bigger whilst they are at it ?...

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Yeah...make the holes bigger so that the circumference is enough to reach where Michelle Wie's ball lands every time she putts!
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Old 03-31-2012, 06:31 PM   #22
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Yeah...make the holes bigger so that the circumference is enough to reach where Michelle Wie's ball lands every time she putts!
They would have to do away with the green all together.
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Old 03-31-2012, 07:08 PM   #23
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One of our local courses sometimes has a large hole tournament. I have never played in this event. I can imagine the agony of gagging a putt with a much larger hole.....
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I can't seem to find any stats on how a PGA pro course is set up regarding the par 5's. How many players go for the par 5 greens in two shots. It will be very course dependent. But they must have some guidelines like "two par 5s where most players will go for the green in two shots".
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Originally Posted by ctmurray View Post
I can't seem to find any stats on how a PGA pro course is set up regarding the par 5's. How many players go for the par 5 greens in two shots. It will be very course dependent. But they must have some guidelines like "two par 5s where most players will go for the green in two shots".

Watch the Masters next week, good risk reward par 5's. Especially on Sunday.
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:53 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by ctmurray View Post
I can't seem to find any stats on how a PGA pro course is set up regarding the par 5's. How many players go for the par 5 greens in two shots. It will be very course dependent. But they must have some guidelines like "two par 5s where most players will go for the green in two shots".
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IMO...guidelines differ from event to event.
IMO....I would say 90% of the pros can go for the green in 2 for the majority of the par 5's. But some events have punitive rough....eliminating high probability of going for the green in 2.

But during a week, the tees will change on the majority of all holes day by day

Note.....the PGA plays a mix of par 70, 71, 72 courses. Therefore affecting the set-up of par 5's.
They also pinch in the rough at majors and classic style courses (where par 5's can't be stretched out) where the majority of drives will likely land.

The gals mainly play to par 72....a few are 71 & 73....with rare 70.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:13 AM   #27
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Don't include the majors in there as the PGA Tour doesn't own any of the majors, and have no say in the set-up.
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Originally Posted by Mr3putt View Post
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IMO...guidelines differ from event to event.
IMO....I would say 90% of the pros can go for the green in 2 for the majority of the par 5's. But some events have punitive rough....eliminating high probability of going for the green in 2.

But during a week, the tees will change on the majority of all holes day by day

Note.....the PGA plays a mix of par 70, 71, 72 courses. Therefore affecting the set-up of par 5's.
They also pinch in the rough at majors and classic style courses (where par 5's can't be stretched out) where the majority of drives will likely land.

The gals mainly play to par 72....a few are 71 & 73....with rare 70.
It does seem like the LPGA players only a few can go for the par 5's in two shots (kind of like the rest of us). Of course we rarely see anyone but the leaders on TV so don't have evidence for other players. So this would compare "badly" to the men's tour events if a larger percentage of their players could go for it in two. It does add to the excitement factor of Men's golf, the option for an eagle.
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Old 04-02-2012, 06:02 PM   #29
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Evian #18 is a good par 5. Good risk reward, good finishing hole. Par 5's at the Sybase Match play also get a lot of 2 shot play by the long hitters. Also good risk reward as well as opportunities for the short hitters on that course. Especially # 18 (or 9) depending on how the set the course. Also makes a good amphitheater for the fans.

Just a few holes I can remember.
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