Morgan Number 3

[Blue]

Difference is between using phones to talk on and using cameras to take pictures where players are playing, and using the same devices in a way that is no more intrusive than reading and writing on a piece of paper, or taking pictures where no play is taking place or after play is done for the day.

That was the crux of the argument last week. I didn't see anyone taking pictures during the tournament action (plenty during the trophy presentation and on the way to and from the course after and before play). I never saw anyone talk on the phone. I think I heard one ring.

The golf tournament people have to keep up with the times. Let people bring smart phones to the course but prohibit phone calls and picture taking. This actually works pretty well in the States. A LOT of people bring phones. Most people use them exactly as I did. They're checking the score of the tournament on line, maybe looking at other things online and if they are so inspired taking pictures far away from the tournament.

This is not a problem and not what Morgan was swearing about.

Anyway, I'm all in favor of people bringing smart phones to tournaments if they turn the phone part off and don't use the camera except after play is done for the day or far away from the tournament action. People are more responsible than you give them credit for, at least when they are not drunk.

It's a much better experience for fans when they can actually check the live scores rather than guessing what's going on. As I mentioned in the other thread, the USGA actually gave out hand held scoring devices at a couple tournaments I've been to, so I don't think they object to this activity.

[dangerbob]

Originally Posted by Blue

Difference is between using phones to talk on and using cameras to take pictures where players are playing, and using the same devices in a way that is no more intrusive than reading and writing on a piece of paper, or taking pictures where no play is taking place or after play is done for the day.

That was the crux of the argument last week. I didn't see anyone taking pictures during the tournament action (plenty during the trophy presentation and on the way to and from the course after and before play). I never saw anyone talk on the phone. I think I heard one ring.

The golf tournament people have to keep up with the times. Let people bring smart phones to the course but prohibit phone calls and picture taking. This actually works pretty well in the States. A LOT of people bring phones. Most people use them exactly as I did. They're checking the score of the tournament on line, maybe looking at other things online and if they are so inspired taking pictures far away from the tournament.

This is not a problem and not what Morgan was swearing about.

Anyway, I'm all in favor of people bringing smart phones to tournaments if they turn the phone part off and don't use the camera except after play is done for the day or far away from the tournament action. People are more responsible than you give them credit for, at least when they are not drunk.

It's a much better experience for fans when they can actually check the live scores rather than guessing what's going on. As I mentioned in the other thread, the USGA actually gave out hand held scoring devices at a couple tournaments I've been to, so I don't think they object to this activity.

Like they say...An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure.
That is why they made it a rule for fans not to bring their cameras and cell phones to the tournaments. Not everyone is disciplined and it's very tempting to use them when they have them. And with all those tens of thousands fans at the tournaments...there is no way they can control them. So, what's the best solution? Ban them! They never had them until the late 1980's or early '90's. What's a little sacrifice if you enjoy going to the game?

[MarinePaul]

Originally Posted by Blue

Difference is between using phones to talk on and using cameras to take pictures where players are playing, and using the same devices in a way that is no more intrusive than reading and writing on a piece of paper, or taking pictures where no play is taking place or after play is done for the day.

That was the crux of the argument last week. I didn't see anyone taking pictures during the tournament action (plenty during the trophy presentation and on the way to and from the course after and before play). I never saw anyone talk on the phone. I think I heard one ring.

The golf tournament people have to keep up with the times. Let people bring smart phones to the course but prohibit phone calls and picture taking. This actually works pretty well in the States. A LOT of people bring phones. Most people use them exactly as I did. They're checking the score of the tournament on line, maybe looking at other things online and if they are so inspired taking pictures far away from the tournament.

This is not a problem and not what Morgan was swearing about.

Anyway, I'm all in favor of people bringing smart phones to tournaments if they turn the phone part off and don't use the camera except after play is done for the day or far away from the tournament action. People are more responsible than you give them credit for, at least when they are not drunk.

It's a much better experience for fans when they can actually check the live scores rather than guessing what's going on. As I mentioned in the other thread, the USGA actually gave out hand held scoring devices at a couple tournaments I've been to, so I don't think they object to this activity.

That's not a valid argument. The RULE is no cameras, no cell phones. It doesn't say "if you're an idiot." It pertains to everybody, even those who pretend they didn't hear the question.

I really have a hard time understanding why you say people are more responsible than I give them credit for, but you favor laws the require seatbelts. Keep in mind that my major gripe with that law is that motorcyclists are not required to wear helmets. Are they "more responsible" than drivers?

Forget it. This is a losing battle. I still say if a person is so self- important that they can't possibly be without their cell phone for a day, they should just stay home and watch it on tape delay.