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Old 03-28-2008, 11:27 PM   #11
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So are poor children rejected from the public schools?

Do the poor parents sometimes just not send the kids to school so that maybe they can work for money or something? We allow kids to be "home schooled", but I think it is illegal for parents to not school their kids. Is it illegal in Mexico too?

I still don't get what Lorena's school is. Is the term "underprivaleged" a nice way of saying disabled, mentally ill or problem children?

Who is paying the teachers' salaries? Lorena or the government?

Is she creating a private school to create a "privaleged" education for kids who would just be in public school otherwise?
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:26 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by TheBrain View Post
So are poor children rejected from the public schools?

Do the poor parents sometimes just not send the kids to school so that maybe they can work for money or something? We allow kids to be "home schooled", but I think it is illegal for parents to not school their kids. Is it illegal in Mexico too?

I still don't get what Lorena's school is. Is the term "underprivaleged" a nice way of saying disabled, mentally ill or problem children?

Who is paying the teachers' salaries? Lorena or the government?

Is she creating a private school to create a "privaleged" education for kids who would just be in public school otherwise?
I don?t believe you guys, from an article on the No.1 golfer in the world, taking time out of her busy schedule to talk to her countrymen, to politics education and teachers salaries. I thought this site was about the great game of golf played by some fantastic ladies from around the world.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:39 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by Balabill View Post
I don?t believe you guys, from an article on the No.1 golfer in the world, taking time out of her busy schedule to talk to her countrymen, to politics education and teachers salaries. I thought this site was about the great game of golf played by some fantastic ladies from around the world.

You've got to have a little patience with us Ballabill, we're in the middle of a very contentious presidential election campaign, a recession, unprecedented illigal immigration, a seemingly unending unpopular war, some early onset alzheimers and the occasional bout of irritable bowel syndrome ...... there are however some 'good days' ..... they are just getting fewer and fewer ..... !
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:55 AM   #14
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The reality in Mexico is that there is a huge socioeconomically gap. We do have public schools; unfortunately their education level is not very good. If a person has some financial capability you will find them (most of the time) investing in a private education. The same is true for health care.
I was privileged enough to go to high school in the States (private catholic school). During my senior year I had the opportunity to visit a public high school in Colorado Springs. I could not believe the installations. They were first class all the way. In comparison consider this. In 1988, Monterrey, suffered from massive floods, and some public schools were destroyed. The government decided to set up several “temporary” schools. They had laminated ceilings, no air conditioning, with just the bare necessities. Twenty years later some of these “temporary” schools are still being used. Monterrey’s temperature is sometime in the 90’s or 100’s during the summer. Imagine trying to learn under these circumstances. Just not the best environment in which to pursue a good education
No. When we talk about underprivileged children it has nothing to do with mental or disability problems. It just means that these children come from families with limited financial capabilities, and who otherwise would not have access to a high quality program. I do not know to what extent does the government contribute in Lorena’s foundation and the school, but I do know that she donates her time and money to give these children the opportunity of a good education.
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Old 03-29-2008, 05:08 AM   #15
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Hi ya lumazi....very good post by you....I was sort of like "the brain"....I was also curious how the public school system in Mexico ran things...thanks for clearing up some of my questions....my guess from your post and others is that Lorena is sort of like "supplementing" what the Government is not providing.....now this is a super worthy cause....I am glad that Lorena has found a well worth cause to donate to

anyway....good post by you lumazi....have a good day in Mexico...see ya!!
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What can Mexico do with the very poor students and/or very bad (dumb or misbehaved) students? Easy, send them to the USA.
You need to train them how to swim first!

Only problem is...there is no more swimming pool in Mexico. All those who can swim are already in the U.S.A.
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Old 03-29-2008, 10:17 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by Balabill View Post
I don’t believe you guys, from an article on the No.1 golfer in the world, taking time out of her busy schedule to talk to her countrymen, to politics education and teachers salaries. I thought this site was about the great game of golf played by some fantastic ladies from around the world.
You're the one who linked the article. Did you even read it? It wasn't about golf or even the grounds crew, it was about Our Lady of Guadalajara.

"Lorena Ochoa is golf’s Joan of Arc, a ferocious warrior who would love to save the world, especially her beloved Mexico."

"visiting with and thanking “my people,’’ who also double as the maintenance crew"

"At her home in Guadalajara, Ochoa is as revered as a saint. Her foundation funds a local school for underprivileged elementary children called La Barranca, while currently building a second such facility for high school students."

"But that’s the dynamic difference between the often emotional Ochoa, a deeply religious caretaker-type, and Sorenstam, a stoic personality who once was called the “Ice Princess.""

I've liked her for several years, but I'm getting kinda tired of Lorena being presented as the new messiah. She was much more likable as the humble, sometimes unlucky, underdog.

My questions about Mexico's education system were genuine. From what I'd read I was getting the impression that there was no public education in Mexico.

Finally, how can somebody be "underprivileged"? Isn't a privilege something that is earned? Is it sorta like being "underentitled"?

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Old 03-29-2008, 10:43 AM   #18
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I've liked her for several years, but I'm getting kinda tired of Lorena being presented as the new messiah. She was much more likable as the humble, sometimes unlucky, underdog.
While Lorena's off course actions are quite commendable I don't buy the "humble" tag any more.

The latest example: ?I?m going to try to be aggressive (Friday) and try to catch her. Maybe I can beat that,? Ochoa said after congratulating Stanford on her round.

Incidently the writer was exposing his bias when he described Annika's 2nd place finish as no better than Lorena's scramble to edge into the top ten.
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Word on tour is that she is also a 'double dipper' in the salsa bowl ... she has to be stopped .....
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Here's another article about the school that Lorena funded with her foundation. It also gives some more facts about education in Mexico.

http://www.golfweek.com/story/ochoa_english_020908
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