2010 ROY Race Unfair Start?

Saint-Just X · 02-28-2010, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by MarinePaul

It's hard to believe that we're all pretty much in agreement. I can't remember the last time that happened.

What this thread needs is some old contrarian to disagree with the notion just for the sake of argument.

Where can we find one of those around here ?...

Pax Vobiscum
Saint-Just X

golfnut · 02-28-2010, 09:45 PM

Not with me, Saint. I agree it's ridiculous that money doesn't count but points earned do. However, i doubt it will have a large impact on the final standings at year's end anyway. Normally ROY is won by a wide margin, and the few points Amanda accumulated probably won't make a difference.

Blue · 03-01-2010, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by golfnut

Not with me, Saint. I agree it's ridiculous that money doesn't count but points earned do. However, i doubt it will have a large impact on the final standings at year's end anyway. Normally ROY is won by a wide margin, and the few points Amanda accumulated probably won't make a difference.

The argument isn't about how it happened to play out in this year's early Asian swing, but whether the system itself is inherently unfair.

Saint-Just X · 03-01-2010, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by golfnut

Not with me, Saint. I agree it's ridiculous that money doesn't count but points earned do. However, i doubt it will have a large impact on the final standings at year's end anyway. Normally ROY is won by a wide margin, and the few points Amanda accumulated probably won't make a difference.

I agree that ROY points from one tournament shouldn't make a difference between winning and losing the title.

With one tiny caveat.

With so few tournaments that rookies can get into -fewer events in general and more of them having a limited field -sponsors' exemptions could figure into the final tally.

And if a sponsor is giving out an exemption,they are more likely to give one to Amanda than to Cindy LaCrosse.

Five or six sponsors' exemptions could end up making a difference.

Thinking about it,it would be much fairer if the earnings counted and the ROY points didn't.

Again,no criticism of Amanda Blumenherst is implied.

I like the way we're all at pains to point that out...

Pax Vobiscum
Saint-Just X

RainDelay · 03-01-2010, 11:27 AM

Some of the LPGA "rules" are crazy to say the least. They aren't consistent. I was as surprised as anyone when I saw that Amanda had earned ROY points. As far as her play in Singapore, she just had a bad tournament. She'll bounce back.

golfnut · 03-02-2010, 01:57 AM

Blue i never said the arguement was about how it played out in the Asian swing. All i did was agree that the system itself was flawed, while at the same time mentioning that ROY is normally won by a wide margin and that Amanda's points probably wouldn't make that much of a difference, that's all.

Blue · 03-03-2010, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by golfnut

Blue i never said the arguement was about how it played out in the Asian swing. All i did was agree that the system itself was flawed, while at the same time mentioning that ROY is normally won by a wide margin and that Amanda's points probably wouldn't make that much of a difference, that's all.

That's true and I think we all agree this is not about Amanda. We've gone out of our way to say this is not about Amanda personally.

02-28-2010, 05:25 PM	#11
Saint-Just X Senior Member Contests: Joint 3nd place overall winner 2010 Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,675	Originally Posted by MarinePaul It's hard to believe that we're all pretty much in agreement. I can't remember the last time that happened. What this thread needs is some old contrarian to disagree with the notion just for the sake of argument. Where can we find one of those around here ?... Pax Vobiscum Saint-Just X __________________ I have sent the most relevant posts you made about Paula Creamer to her lawyers. Hope they take action against your statements - Elf

03-01-2010, 07:02 AM	#13
Blue Forum Moderator Contests: Joint 3rd place overall winner 2009. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,650 Images: 6	Originally Posted by golfnut Not with me, Saint. I agree it's ridiculous that money doesn't count but points earned do. However, i doubt it will have a large impact on the final standings at year's end anyway. Normally ROY is won by a wide margin, and the few points Amanda accumulated probably won't make a difference. The argument isn't about how it happened to play out in this year's early Asian swing, but whether the system itself is inherently unfair.

03-01-2010, 07:18 AM	#14
Saint-Just X Senior Member Contests: Joint 3nd place overall winner 2010 Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,675	Originally Posted by golfnut Not with me, Saint. I agree it's ridiculous that money doesn't count but points earned do. However, i doubt it will have a large impact on the final standings at year's end anyway. Normally ROY is won by a wide margin, and the few points Amanda accumulated probably won't make a difference. I agree that ROY points from one tournament shouldn't make a difference between winning and losing the title. With one tiny caveat. With so few tournaments that rookies can get into -fewer events in general and more of them having a limited field -sponsors' exemptions could figure into the final tally. And if a sponsor is giving out an exemption,they are more likely to give one to Amanda than to Cindy LaCrosse. Five or six sponsors' exemptions could end up making a difference. Thinking about it,it would be much fairer if the earnings counted and the ROY points didn't. Again,no criticism of Amanda Blumenherst is implied. I like the way we're all at pains to point that out... Pax Vobiscum Saint-Just X __________________ I have sent the most relevant posts you made about Paula Creamer to her lawyers. Hope they take action against your statements - Elf

03-03-2010, 06:57 AM	#17
Blue Forum Moderator Contests: Joint 3rd place overall winner 2009. Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,650 Images: 6	Originally Posted by golfnut Blue i never said the arguement was about how it played out in the Asian swing. All i did was agree that the system itself was flawed, while at the same time mentioning that ROY is normally won by a wide margin and that Amanda's points probably wouldn't make that much of a difference, that's all. That's true and I think we all agree this is not about Amanda. We've gone out of our way to say this is not about Amanda personally.

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02-28-2010, 09:45 PM	#12
golfnut Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mandeville, Louisiana Posts: 484	Not with me, Saint. I agree it's ridiculous that money doesn't count but points earned do. However, i doubt it will have a large impact on the final standings at year's end anyway. Normally ROY is won by a wide margin, and the few points Amanda accumulated probably won't make a difference.

03-01-2010, 11:27 AM	#15
RainDelay Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United States Posts: 151	Some of the LPGA "rules" are crazy to say the least. They aren't consistent. I was as surprised as anyone when I saw that Amanda had earned ROY points. As far as her play in Singapore, she just had a bad tournament. She'll bounce back.

03-02-2010, 01:57 AM	#16
golfnut Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mandeville, Louisiana Posts: 484	Blue i never said the arguement was about how it played out in the Asian swing. All i did was agree that the system itself was flawed, while at the same time mentioning that ROY is normally won by a wide margin and that Amanda's points probably wouldn't make that much of a difference, that's all.